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Azog The Defiler:
Yes they should serve their own purpose to the faction, otherwise they wouldnt be necessary^^

But yes i like shagrats idea, i think the mordor trolls should have lower durability with higher dmg output with their weapon specialisation
and the Dol Guldur trolls have higher durability with their increased armor, but have lower dmg due to the fact they only get the wooden mace, but they could be used more overall.

And how and from where you get the Dol Guldur trolls:
I still think they should be recruited from Dol Guldur, and you would get them through Saurons influence. This would symbolise the fact that Dol Guldur which is a fortress far away has their own unique looking army. And with Saurons prescence, he armors up his army with heavily armored battle trolls.

And i dont think Minas Morgul should have trolls as a unit, because Minas Morgul is a fortress in Mordor and all the trolls there have the same armor and Dol Guldur has its own.




But it could also be through the troll cage:
Maybe through Saurons influence, instead of giving the trolls an upgrade he would give the troll cage new units, Dol Guldur battle troll, and Mordor attack troll.
So heres the idea:

Troll cage level 1
Mountain troll: These would be trolls in training, cant get any weapon or armor upgrade, but they are cheaper, and mostly used in the beginning. Ofc they could be used later if youre running low on resources.

Troll cage level 2
Drummer troll: same as now

Troll cage level 3
The trolls spawn with armor.

Mordor attack troll: You get the three weapon upgrades for largely increased dmg, but the trolls have lower durability, in the movies it was always these trolls that were used to breach gates and they did as much dmg as they could before dying.

Dol Guldur battle troll: Heavier armor, but no weapon upgrade, they spawn with the Wooden mace, and dont have as high dmg as the attack trolls. Their dmg would be more overall due to the fact they dont have weapon specialisation. And in the movie these trolls were fighting on the battlefield for a longer period of time.

These would serve you as tank trolls, when you are fighting a battle and you dont have that much time to focus on you trolls, while Mordor trolls require more attention to be used effectively

Whale Sharku:
Here is another suggestion:
Both troll types are recruited from the common mountain trolls. The Dol Guldur Armory can be developed in Dol Guldur and makes them much more durable, but also a little slower compared to the Mordor Armory. The upgrade is more expensive and stronger than the Mordor version without the special weapon, however if you count the weapon upgrade, the Mordor version is more expensive and more advanced overall because it is capable of taking out anything very fast.

The player can only get one of the armor upgrades while the other one gets closed at that point.

So the decision would be rather tied to whether you want to do pressure right now or you think you can, and should, wait.
Imo it's also more realistic not to see both of them in the same army, because Dol Guldur was an early attempt to regain power which ultimately failed before the real war.

Azog The Defiler:
Yes i agree on everything, but i wouldnt mind having more options in the troll lair, i think it would smoothen the gameplay, if the trolls would spawn with the armor, and the for mordor troll you could then further buy the weapon specialisation afterwards.

Plus if the troll cage got the different trolls, the different trolls would be available in war of the ring, at the moment you can just have the regular trolls, you cant get them upgraded, so this would also be a solution for that.

But i didnt quite get one thing, did you mean that the trolls can be recruited from Dol Guldur or that the upgrade can be researched there?:)

LordMaus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d61BIwNal8

Look at to " 1:44 " there are really cool type of orc armored units near the azog. Edain Team Please bring these units^^

Please bring everything from hobbit films ( all trolls and their armored types + all kind of armored or other units or things ).

Mordor is weak comparing to other factions...

Saruman der Bunte:

--- Zitat von: Whale Sharku am  6. Apr 2015, 13:19 ---Here is another suggestion:
Both troll types are recruited from the common mountain trolls. The Dol Guldur Armory can be developed in Dol Guldur and makes them much more durable, but also a little slower compared to the Mordor Armory. The upgrade is more expensive and stronger than the Mordor version without the special weapon, however if you count the weapon upgrade, the Mordor version is more expensive and more advanced overall because it is capable of taking out anything very fast.

The player can only get one of the armor upgrades while the other one gets closed at that point.

So the decision would be rather tied to whether you want to do pressure right now or you think you can, and should, wait.
Imo it's also more realistic not to see both of them in the same army, because Dol Guldur was an early attempt to regain power which ultimately failed before the real war.

--- Ende Zitat ---

I don't think a the new troll class is really needed, but if they are to be implemented, I think Whales concept would be the best way to do it.

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