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Adamin:
I don't exactly know why, but I seem to remember from my last time reading The Two Towers, that Elves don't really sleep.

I think Legolas explains this to Gimli and Aragorn (and the reader) during their hunt for the Uruk-Hai. They put up a camp for the night and while the Dwarf and Man drift into sleep, the Elf just kind of meditates with closed eyes.

Am I remembering that correctly, or did I get my stories mixed up? Can someone confirm that Elves don't sleep at all?

hoho96:
It's been a while since I've last read it, but yeah i do remember such a thing.
Meditation is a good word to describe it^^
#Jedi elves

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: hoho96 am 27. Okt 2015, 11:05 ---It's been a while since I've last read it, but yeah i do remember such a thing.
Meditation is a good word to describe it^^
#Jedi elves


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Yes, I too heard that it's more a kind of restful Meditation, where the most ancient Elves have also the opportunity to mentally wander throughout their deepest Memories, since their Memory is always as vivid and alive as their 'immortal' lifespan  :)

Also, if I remember correctly, in ROTK, when the guests of the wedding of Aragorn and Arwen leave Gondor to return home, it's described that, during a nocturnal moment of the journey, Elrond, Celeborn, Galadriel, Gandalf (probably, the Maiar have this same trait too in their true form, or another one closed to their original Majesty) and other Elves fall in a sort of meditative-watchful state, in which they seem to reminisce their Past, while appearing, also, to 'telepathically' contact the other ones in that exact state.

CragLord:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am  3. Nov 2015, 14:40 ---Yes, I too heard that it's more a kind of restful Meditation, where the most ancient Elves have also the opportunity to mentally wander throughout their deepest Memories, since their Memory is always as vivid and alive as their 'immortal' lifespan  :)

Also, if I remember correctly, in ROTK, when the guests of the wedding of Aragorn and Arwen leave Gondor to return home, it's described that, during a nocturnal moment of the journey, Elrond, Celeborn, Galadriel, Gandalf (probably, the Maiar have this same trait too in their true form, or another one closed to their original Majesty) and other Elves fall in a sort of meditative-watchful state, in which they seem to reminisce their Past, while appearing, also, to 'telepathically' contact the other ones in that exact state.

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Now I understand how Blizzard got idea about "Khala" in StarCraft universe. xD :P

ThorinsNemesis:
I always had a question that I didn't find any answer to: in the Fourth Age of Middle-earth, the Elves who chose to remain in Middle-earth instead of going to Valinor still lived, but 'faded'.
My question is - what does this mean? I know it means that their spirit consumes their body and it becomes invisible. But:
1.The Elves who had faded, could they see each other as normal?
2.I read in Tolkien Gateway that the faded Elves could manifest before mortals if they wish. Does this mean that they were invisible most of the time to mortals (but could see and communicate as normal with other faded Elves), but when they wished they could show their physical forms to people?

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