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ziqing:
The problem now is that the walls and gates of Gondor and Rohan are too weak, they  could easily be destroyed by regular siege weapon, that makes giant siege weapon like grond meaningless

helloa2134:

--- Zitat --- Grond will not be summoned anywhere in the map but near Gothmog's range.
--- Ende Zitat ---
No I understand what you mean, but if Gothmog is near the enemy fortress assaulting it, then Grond could be summoned right in front of the enemy's fortress.


--- Zitat ---I could say the same thing about Isengard's mine power which can be used in the middle of the camp and causes destruction. Remember that Gothmog has to be level 10 to use the ability.
--- Ende Zitat ---

To be fair, I think there can be a difference in power between an ultimate-level spell book power, and a hero's level 10 power (Sauron excepted). Also, the mine power is a one-use attack, which can be used to destroy a single, or a pair of buildings.  It is extremely powerful, true, but Grond can move around and cause a great deal more damage.  I suppose the question would be how long can Grond be summoned for? It would have to be summoned long enough to have some effect.

Morgul Orc:

--- Zitat von: ziqing am 10. Jun 2015, 19:44 ---The problem now is that the walls and gates of Gondor and Rohan are too weak, they  could easily be destroyed by regular siege weapon, that makes giant siege weapon like grond meaningless

--- Ende Zitat ---
Yes. That is why I suggested it as a summon power for Gothmog instead of a level 10 power.

--- Zitat --- the mine power is a one-use attack, which can be used to destroy a single, or a pair of buildings.
--- Ende Zitat ---
Yes but it can used even if you have no units near the enemy base you can just use the spy power and cause destruction in the middle of your enemy's camp/castle.

--- Zitat ---Grond can move around and cause a great deal more damage.  I suppose the question would be how long can Grond be summoned for? It would have to be summoned long enough to have some effect.

--- Ende Zitat ---
Grond can also take damage from your enemy's units and Hero's. And we can solve that by lowering it's Health/Defence.

helloa2134:


--- Zitat --- Yes but it can used even if you have no units near the enemy base you can just use the spy power and cause destruction in the middle of your enemy's camp/castle.
--- Ende Zitat ---

Well that would be silly :D  The enemy could just rebuild their buildings, but I digress.


--- Zitat --- Grond can also take damage from your enemy's units and Hero's. And we can solve that by lowering it's Health/Defence.
--- Ende Zitat ---

I suppose if Grond got a fairly hard nerf, then it could work as a level 10 power for Gothmog.  Again, it would have to have quite a hard nerf, which I think would diminish the badassery of Grond.  I won't say I'm convinced that Grond shouldn't be the second ultimate level spell for Mordor, but for the sake of argumentation I'll accept your points for now.  What I would ask is what do you think would be a proper replacement for "The Hammer of the Underworld?"   

Morgul Orc:

--- Zitat ---What I would ask is what do you think would be a proper replacement for "The Hammer of the Underworld?"   
--- Ende Zitat ---
Yes that's the main thing in this Topic to think about a unique power that replaces Grond  :D

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