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Heroes - how powerful should they be?

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Gandalf The Gray:

--- Zitat von: Der Leviathan am 14. Okt 2015, 20:16 ---
--- Zitat ---And when a Masslayer is a tank, and massslayer+tank is to strong
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No. All players focus the masssylayer, because he has AoE. If all focus him he will die in short time.
Edit: So I agree Gandalf the gray.

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thanks thats my point

Odysseus:
...Or you can reduce the health of troops as Lord of Mordor just told us, that's the other side of the coin :P. Also worth a  try, methinks. Just watched a pvp game on youtube where upgraded Uruk-hai were tanking Word of Power a couple of times. As an example. I could post the link to show you how little Word of Power seems to do against a fully upgraded Uruk-Hai army, for those that want to see?

ringbearer:

--- Zitat von: Odysseus am 14. Okt 2015, 22:03 ---...Or you can reduce the health of troops as Lord of Mordor just told us, that's the other side of the coin :P. Also worth a  try, methinks. Just watched a pvp game on youtube where upgraded Uruk-hai were tanking Word of Power a couple of times. As an example. I could post the link to show you how little Word of Power seems to do against a fully upgraded Uruk-Hai army, for those that want to see?

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DO it! :D

Odysseus:
Okay, here goes :P

It's Isilpro's account on Youtube, since he seems to be the only one to deliver above-average level pvp play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susvVFgxKo8

It's quite a long video. The first Word of Power can be seen around the 45:40 minute mark. Tell me your thoughts after seeing all the Words of Power.

Doctor Who:

--- Zitat von: Lord of Mordor am 14. Okt 2015, 19:37 ---
As some have already said, we will try units with 20% less health in the next version to see how that feels and how people enjoy it. Do you think heroes should also get 20% less health alongside that? Or do you think they're already fragile enough?


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Hello,
Yes, i find that heroes should get a lower heealth, too.  But maybe not -20%,  for the first try -10%.
One question : Will the hero abilities also be weaker ? Would be interesting to see units with lower life but same Spell  and hero abiliy- strength.


--- Zitat von: Lord of Mordor am 14. Okt 2015, 19:37 ---We've also been thinking about increasing hero armor against archers, because archer focus fire seems to kill heroes too easily at the moment. Unlike melee, there's not much you can do against it, if you keep your hero surrounded by defenders the enemy can still focus him with the entirety of his archers. I think it's more interesting if you actually have to get close to heroes, then it becomes a question of how safe you can keep yours and how much risk you take with them.


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I dont find that the hero armor against archers should be increased, because how do you should counter a Word of power from Gandalf when he rides. If the archers focus a hero than take him back a little bit and maybe the opponent dont pay attention and the archers run forward, also if he focus my hero my army can fight without archers damage.   I am against that safely hero gaming, heroes should stand out with their abilities not their armor.

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