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Elrond - Lord of Imladris

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LordDainIronfoot:
I think he may lose the Hero XP Boost!As for what should his Forsight do,hmm may be you can use it on an Enemy Hero and see what he can or on Enemy Battalion!?

Adrigabbro:
Hmmm ... as for Gildor, I don't know if it would end up cool, but how about some spell that would remind of the journey to the West? In the LOTR movie I believe he is the guy who walks by Arwen's side before she decides to go back and stay.

TiberiusOgden:

--- Zitat von: Eldalf am 19. Jul 2015, 19:14 ---Cirdan could get a debuff ability. Give him something like elven mists which debuffs the damage done. 

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But it's still elven mist which will be in the Lorien. It means that won't be unique for Cirdan, but mainly - he isn't debuffer or interferer (like Mouth of Sauron etc.) who weakens enemies, but he is unit supporter who supports them.


--- Zitat von: Eldalf am 19. Jul 2015, 19:14 ---On the topic of which skill to replace on Elrond, replace the either the mount or the hero experience boost. If you are going with an experience boost aura, then having a direct increase of experience by active power would be redundant.

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Active experience boost is for heroes vs passive leadership is for units.


--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am 19. Jul 2015, 19:23 ---I think he may lose the Hero XP Boost!

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It's his iconic ability which definitely will stay. It's more accurate (Elrond's council, Elrond advice about everything). By the way - if he loses such ability his role of hero supporter will be disrupted (because there will remain only refresh ability for hero skill sets).


--- Zitat von: Adrigabbro am 19. Jul 2015, 19:23 ---how about some spell that would remind of the journey to the West?

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Perhaps some longer and picturesque stroll. xD
Really useful for scout hero. Seriously - "Journey to the West" references already has Cirdan in his skill.

Melkor Bauglir:
However Elrond isn't an exclusively hero-support. In fact, his old abilities make him a complete hybrid-hero (2 damage abilities, 1 hero-support-ability, 1 leadership and his refresh-spell (I don't know the english name, sorry), which supports heroes and troops (eventhough it benefits heroes much more)).
For now, I actually see Arwen as Imladris' hero-support, mainly because of her leadership, while Cirdan is Imladris' main-support for troops.

TiberiusOgden:
I completely agree - second reason of this thread is also to deal with Elrond's role. xD
But I think that generally we can say that he is primarily hero support and secondarily unit support for faction (so mix of Arwen and Cirdan). Flood can be kind of support on the battlefield, because it isn't too strong and it has knockback effect (generally Elrond concept is support on the battlefield and not in the background). Only one problem which I can see is whirlwind because such kind of destructive spell is characteristic for mass slayers.
If whirlwind will be gone there will be only flood as a destructive ability - so it won't be crucial. Passive skill is not only support for units but it upgrades Elrond's armour as well.
So that restoration (or Vilya in our concept) and hero XP boost will be at least two skills for his hero support role, and rest of skills will be fragmented. :)

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