Khazad dum veterans.

[™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™]

I have an idea on how we can balance Khazad dum veterans. What if you make the supply camp cost cost 300, but make it cost 600-800 to buy a pack of ponies. That way no one can mindless send dwarves to khazad dum 

[LordDainIronfoot]

Well the system is a little bit complicated but still good I lvoe the Veterans only their Models should be different!And may be a little bit less health!

[CragLord]

You should always take math into consideration! There is chance for getting Khazad Dum Veterans, with different words, you may never get them! 
If team in some of next updates decide to reduce number of available battalions, i vote for limit of 6 teams.  (With them you can hold hordes of hell which are up you.  )
Balance should always be between cost of battalions and chance of getting them.

[LordDainIronfoot]

The Chance is a little bit too low but thats because they are super strong!45 Battalions of them and you can crush almost everything!

[TiberiusOgden]

45 Battalions of them and you can crush almost everything!

With 45 battalions you can crush not "almost" but definitely everything. Sometimes you have megalomaniac suggestions, mate.

By the way it seems that there will be some little change, because current system causes technical problems, as some players have noticed, but I have no official information about it.

[LordDainIronfoot]

Ha ha !Its not that!It jsut my keyboard is broken and I ahve to change it sometimes when I push 4 or 6 it get the next number too! If you remember it happened a lot of times! I meant 4-5

[Walküre]

Ha ha !Its not that!It jsut my keyboard is broken and I ahve to change it sometimes when I push 4 or 6 it get the next number too! If you remember it happened a lot of times! I meant 4-5

Yes, yes... Don't deny your secret desires of dominion upon all Edain realms 

By the way, some time ago I was playing with the Blue Mountains, and, after a lot of troubles and struggle, I finally managed to get the Veterans; but, when I tried to give Thorin the Mithril armour, there has been a bug that activated this power, but there was no armour instead 

[LordDainIronfoot]

Yup it is a knowned bug they said they will fix it! :-)

[Walküre]

I know, but that bug destroyed completely my moral 

[CragLord]

There is also one weird situation with pony camps.
I presume that all experienced players always build this camp close to base, so dwarven guardian battalions could be fast combined with ponies. ( Effect is that ponies with dwarves leave map before you combined new dwarven battalion with new pony set) But once I played Helm's Deep map, so I built pony camp at farthest corner of map, and near  camp I summoned that Moria gate building so I can bring fresh battalions. First bug was that combination of ponies and dwarves always walked over Hornburg's wall and went in that corner of map.  I always combined new battalion of ponies and dwarves before previous disappeared from map. So second bug was that no single Veteran units came back, I continued to combine  and send them and in one moment I gave up.(Sent about 20 combinations)  And few moments after last pony&dwarf unit disappeared from map, 6 battalions of Veterans appeared! So there is some side effect, and  you  should always wait that combined battalion disappear from map and then combine and send new one.

[Draco100000]

Veterans are very op, but can be countered with a enormous amount of archers, I think edain team simply can change the chance sistem. for every 5 min which pass the chance to get them grows 2,5 % (starting at 5%) so after 20 min the chance must be 15% and after 40 min 25%. So this can make them as late game powerfull units, allowing the player to counter enemie hero units. I prefer this than ban them from every match that i play with dwarves, I dont know the chance to get them right now or how it grows, but is too high.