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New and Different Outpost Building for Ered Luin/Iron Hills

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LordDainIronfoot:
As DieWalkure said this is too much of speculation to be used!And I myself think that Dwarves have enough millitayr strentgh not t orely on Mercineries not to mention I do not think that their pride would ever allowthem to hire someone to fight their battles for them!So over all I do not think that Mercineries will fit for the Dwarves! :)
About the Hall and the "security"problem the building will have Battle Towers on it from the begining and some puchaseable Ballista and i even suggested few Dwarves arouond it as Guards and that is enough I tihnk!And it was never stated that the Heads or Embassadors of the 7 Clans gathered in Ered Luin they said "meeting of our kin in the North...|  which suggest many places where it could have been held with Guards around! Plus it is something like neutral ground for all from politic point of view! :) And if the outpost will be for Iron Hills we should keep in mind that Iron Hills is not Erebor and it is not only one Big Peak with one Fortress,most probably there were few Fortresses around the Iron Hills(as big mountain region)  and mines all over the Region which suggest that the meeting could be held in some place in the region of Iron Hills which is still Dain territory and stil lbe strong Stronghold with big security! :) Thanks again to CragLord for steping up for me and Tienity while we were away and Walkure too! :)

Tienety:

--- Zitat von: CragLord am  8. Aug 2015, 22:57 ---Tienety, new idea about look of assambly hall. Maybe we could use  model of current Dwarven fortress from vanila:
Of course, there should be few modification.
First all towers from main building should be removed (except one, as you propose in general idea, one shooting tower from start, and this will make outpost  more expensive than others dwarven outpost expansions)
Second, inner hole in building structure will be  filled, so fresh builded outpost should be something like this:

Inside yellow circle should be place for Dwarven table expansion, in red circles should be some of outside buildings (barracks, tarven, ballista's expansion and one starting defence tower).
What do you think about this? :) xD
 

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I think that this is a good idea. I would like see part of old Dwarven fortress again in game. 8-)

LordDainIronfoot:
I actually like the idea of using the old. Dwarven Fortress but may be with more Greyish Color similar to the current Dwarven Buildings I really like your idea CragLord!And how about except one tower we get 2 but slightly weaker or one tower and when you purchase all upgrade buildings you automatically get like 5 Guards with Heavy Armor and Shields guarding the building! :-)

CragLord:

--- Zitat von: Tienety am  9. Aug 2015, 08:06 ---I think that this is a good idea. I would like see part of old Dwarven fortress again in game. 8-)

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Glad you like it. :) I also think it would be shame if old model of fortress isn't used somehow. xD


--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  9. Aug 2015, 08:25 --- I actually like the idea of using the old. Dwarven Fortress but may be with more Greyish Color similar to the current Dwarven Buildings I really like your idea CragLord!And how about except one tower we get 2 but slightly weaker or one tower and when you purchase all upgrade buildings you automatically get like 5 Guards with Heavy Armor and Shields guarding the building! :-)
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I am really glad you like it too. xD :)
Color is slightest problem for now, agree that greyish is more suitable. Simply I like everything about "Gray" nowadays.  (**)  :D  :D  :P
About defence towers, I really don't know. I like your proposal, but I think this is one of main problems with this Outpost. Other dwarven outpost don't have that siege weapon upgrade like this Outpost (ballista upgrade from main proposal), insted they have simple defence tower expanision. So idea for future is to add siege expansions to Dale/Lake Town or to disable sioege expansion for this Outpost. About that tower upgrade you mentioned, I really like it. Also that version with dwarven guards. This will make"Security" reasons for disabling this idea smaller. :D ("Security" reasons from my last night's disscusion with Linhir, if you didn't read it allready)

LordDainIronfoot:
I am not so sure about the Catapult/Ballista Upgrade instead we can get Two Battle Towers and later as mentioned few Heavy Guards around it! :)
I read your discussion and thats why I mentioned the Security problem :D :D
But the whole idea with Mercenerries is just not lore wise nor logical knowing the Dwarves as what I mentioned in my previous post! :D

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