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New scout hero for Isengard

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mauhir42:
I get it about the scout hero..but i dont understand when you say there wouldnt be room for another regular hero.look at how many heroes mordor has.Regardless i still support the Mauhur scout hero idea that the original poster has too.hopefully one day Mauhur will have a little bigger role in the mod.never hurts to have a couple of different ideas floating around.

Odysseus:
Of course, it doesn't hurt. But if they get shot down, you musn't be discouraged. Keep posting and eventually your ideas will improve over time. If Bill Ferny would be replaced by Mauhur (which already has an interesting rendition, in my opinion, or Lugdush for that matter, some draft on what kind of abilities he would use would be required. Thankfully, Tienety already kindly presented a set of abilities similar to that of Ferny so that's checked.
While I agree that it would be more logical to have an Uruk as a fighting scout hero, Ferny's final ability is important in competitive 1v1, because he aids Isengard in overcoming their ''weaker'' early game. I don't know what the team thinks, but I believe it would be important to have a hero with that kind of ability, especially if you have an adversary that pins you in your base with an early rush so that you can either purchase more defenses or research the Machinery of War upgrade sooner and actually start getting out more combat effective troops, because Isengard will have a rough time. Especially Peasants will do some nasty things to early game Isengard, depending on the map.
All in all, I would agree with this proposal, if some resources benefitting ability would be given to him, similar in power and timing as Ferny, or earlier timing, but with weaker benefits.

Greetings.

Elite KryPtik:
Actually, ever since the latest patch Isengard is not weak early game anymore, they are now one of the strongest. Spam out a few wildmen and save up for Wulfgar.

Odysseus:
Are they? What changed suddenly that made them strong then? Wulfgar's abilities? What you speak of has been the go-to strategy for quite some patches now, because otherwise you'll probably get rolled in 1v1. Unless ET changed their minds, I still remember them saying that Isengard is supposed to be weaker early game.

Elite KryPtik:
Well, in practice, combined with Bill Ferny, Isengard Wildmen EG can wreck most others. The only ones who can give them a good run are Rohan, and even then some good Bill micro can wreck them. The new abilities for Wulfgar make a big difference, I rush him now just like I rush Gamling as Rohan.

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