Aesthetic Changes for the Dwarves

[CragLord]

You have created a masterpiece my friend and youdeserve al lthe credit!!Realy astonishng SOund worthy of the Durin's Day!!
I eally hope that we will get to hear it in Edain!

Thanks Dain, I still think there could be some improvement.

Alright people,

Proudly I present you my creation, sound effect for Durin's Day power. 
First of all, LordDain have done beautiful cut of Thrush knocking effect from movie, big thanks to him, rest of job was my duty. 
Before you listen it, I want to say few words, I have used Thrush's sound effect from movie, and it's song from nature. In first few seconds you will hear Thrush knocking like in movie, it is just before Durin's Day comes. After that thrush start singing, and magic happens, Dwarven New Year starts.

File: http://www.megafileupload.com/qgzS/Durin_s_Day_Sound_Effect.rar

P.S. I have made this a bit longer version (it is about 20 sec long), but I think it will correspond nicely with duration of current visual effect for Durin's Day. If not I could make new shorter version.
I hope you will like it!

This is unbelievably great 
Iconic, unique, evocative and rightly differentiated for the Dwarves as race, compared to the other factions of the game.
Great work, Crag 

P.S. Are we still talking about 'minor' graphical changes?
It seems that these proposals are starting to involve the main pillars of the Edain Mod and its own factions 
(When I heard this track, it was as if I truly were in the outside Nature  ).

Hush, you! You made me blush!
Thanks Walk, I am glad you like it. I highly appreciate your opinion!
P.S. For now it is just sound change, if team finds this as appropriate.

[Ealendril der Dunkle]

P.S. Are we still talking about 'minor' graphical changes?
It seems that these proposals are starting to involve the main pillars of the Edain Mod and its own factions 
(When I heard this track, it was as if I truly were in the outside Nature  ).

Agree on that. CragLord, this sound is really amazing! ANd special thanks to our LordDainironfoot. The sound effect is included.

[CragLord]

P.S. Are we still talking about 'minor' graphical changes?
It seems that these proposals are starting to involve the main pillars of the Edain Mod and its own factions 
(When I heard this track, it was as if I truly were in the outside Nature  ).

Agree on that. CragLord, this sound is really amazing! ANd special thanks to our LordDainironfoot. The sound effect is included.

I am glad you like it. To be honest good amount of my free time today was devoured by work on that sound effect.
I have suggestion, maybe you could try to delay visual effect of this power in game for 4 sec (so time when thrush start singing will be same time when visual effects(cloud breaking in game) of power appear), just see how will that work.
Greetings

[LordDainIronfoot]

P.S. Are we still talking about 'minor' graphical changes?
It seems that these proposals are starting to involve the main pillars of the Edain Mod and its own factions 
(When I heard this track, it was as if I truly were in the outside Nature  ).

Agree on that. CragLord, this sound is really amazing! ANd special thanks to our LordDainironfoot. The sound effect is included.

While I apriciate it,I haven't really done anything special!! It is all Crag efforts and time,he is really a genius with those sounds!

P.S. Are we still talking about 'minor' graphical changes?
It seems that these proposals are starting to involve the main pillars of the Edain Mod and its own factions 
(When I heard this track, it was as if I truly were in the outside Nature  ).

Agree on that. CragLord, this sound is really amazing! ANd special thanks to our LordDainironfoot. The sound effect is included.

I am glad you like it. To be honest good amount of my free time today was devoured by work on that sound effect.
I have suggestion, maybe you could try to delay visual effect of this power in game for 4 sec (so time when thrush start singing will be same time when visual effects(cloud breaking in game) of power appear), just see how will that work.
Greetings

Great suggestion Crag,it certainly will be cool and interesting as a visual and sound combination!If indeed its possible it wil lbe nice to have it in game!I hope it is then

[CragLord]

Ok,
Ea confirmed that Durin's model will probably be improved in future, and we have found two new sound effects for Durin's ability "Master of Stone", for now ability "Word of Silence" is without sound effect. My suggestion is that sound effect should be sound effect of Lord Dain's "Forces of the Dwarven Kingdoms" ability:
http://www.megafileupload.com/iklE/Word_of_Silence.rar
I really find this sound perfect for this ability, deep dwarven voice  is speaking something strange, unique etc.
And for Lord Dain's ability "Forces of the Dwarven Kingdoms" we could have famous "Tanar Durin nur" sentence from movie. I have processed that sentence from movie for this purpose:
http://www.megafileupload.com/9viQ/Tanar_Durin_nur_new.rar
And for Lord Dain's ability "Vendetta" this sentence:
http://www.megafileupload.com/5jad/The_Hordes_of_Hell_are_upon_us!To_Battle,to_Battle_Sons_of_Durin!_new.rar

What do you think about this?

P.S. This sentence is now in content of sound pack of Lord Dain in game, with EE we will probably get more material for LordDain/KingDain's sound pack (there will be original Baruk Khazad sentence from Dain, which could be used as sound effect for Lord Dain's "Baruk Khazad" ability    ), so this Tanar sentence in that future moment could be removed from pack and will stay only as ability sound effect.   

Greetings

[CragLord]

Hey! I have some suggestions concerning the new dwarven units.

I was thinking about the Ered Mithrin's Dragon Slayer, and, IMO, they should be considerably different from the other Ered Mithrin units - not only to represent their singularity, but also their strenght. It would also make them more easily spottable and would make Ered Mithrin's units look more aesthetically varied.

So... These are the points that may be changed:

- ET, you designed those soldiers with a helmet similar to Skirim's horned helmet, but you changed it 'cause it resembled the game, and the idea did not seem so original. But it was a great idea, as the soldiers did look great. Maybe this helmet can be included if you change it's skin to a more Greyish-Stonish look with the same textures as the actual ones. Also, the horns may have a "Bonish" or "Ironish" shape; does not matter. The horns themselves resembles the idea of badass dragonslayers that these units should have.

- The color of their robes should be a Bloddish red, I think. This change would make them look different, more iconic and would symbolize the color of fire, related to Dragons (which the slayers are known for slaughtering).

- Lastly, "Maybe you should consider redesigning the morningstar a little, this current one is too "evil" since its shape reminds me of iron crown and Angmar". It's size is also too big - and this feature should be Witch King's mighty weapon's only. I don't have a cool design in mind, but an alternative could me a detailed, small and compact ball with spikes (just like other morning stars) with the color and brightness of the current Ered Mithrin's soldiers's chain mail armor.

So, as you can see, many of these thoughts are just small changing of the existing good ones - but I am sure they would make huge differences, improving considerably the look of these new units.

Anyway, I hope you like these ideas. ^^

Hello,
This is more topic for cosmetic changes of dwarven faction in current state.
For changes of new Ered Mithrin units, I suggest you to post here your feedback and suggestions: Link.
Regards

[Gandalf The Gray]

hi there world its me gandalf just played with the dwarves and i wanna say something that i noticed about the iron heels dwarfs all the dwarfs had the same faces like clones and also i think the dwarfs of the iron heels have a lack of armor it dose not look like a heavy armor maybe make it look more place some more parts of armor change it a lil bit just a suggestion

[Ealendril der Dunkle]

Sound for Word of Silence and Tanar Durin nur are pretty awesome, good job!

[CragLord]

So I have posted  processed sound of Erebor Horn in other topic (Link),
and now I have suggestion about that area look of dwarven Rallying Call. Current look in game:

I suggest that symbol inside circle should be removed with look of Horn of Erebor which is used in movie by Bombur:

I have found some decent picture of that horn, so I suggest its implementation for Erebor faction if it is possible:

Similar thing already exist in Gondor and Arnor faction and it looks great:

P.S. I suggest this look only for Erebor faction if it is possible, because I think I could find some good visual effect for Ered Luin and for Iron Hills also. If this isn't possible (because all 3 Dwarven kingdoms share same spellbook), then Erebor Horn look should be used for all of them.

What do you think about this?

[Gandalf The Gray]

they are awesome 

[Walküre]

Yes, if I'm not wrong, all the three Dwarven Factions have and can only have necessarily the same Spellbook, graphical elements included.

Well, I like this proposal very much, Crag 

[LordDainIronfoot]

I think our dear Walkure is right,but still.Erebor being the Prime Dwarven Kingdom of the Third Age where the "High Dwarven King" is ,I think ita Horn is suitable for all 3 Dwarven Kingdoms ! :-) Representing the Morale Boost and Courage will the Dwarves of all Kingdoms get from fighting for the Heir of the Noblest and Oldest of their Forefathers! :-)
P.S. Crag my friend have you seen my recent Brief Dwarven Suggestions about few Sounds I am sure you can process them and make them much better if the Team decides to use them! :-)

[CragLord]

they are awesome 

Thanks Gray.
For you: Link     

Yes, if I'm not wrong, all the three Dwarven Factions have and can only have necessarily the same Spellbook, graphical elements included.

Well, I like this proposal very much, Crag 

In that case Erebor (as Dain have said) horn could work like prime one for all 3 kingdoms.
I am glad you like it.
P.S. Lets give some good ideas, I really need to shown my true intention here.

I think our dear Walkure is right,but still.Erebor being the Prime Dwarven Kingdom of the Third Age where the "High Dwarven King" is ,I think ita Horn is suitable for all 3 Dwarven Kingdoms ! :-) Representing the Morale Boost and Courage will the Dwarves of all Kingdoms get from fighting for the Heir of the Noblest and Oldest of their Forefathers! :-)
P.S. Crag my friend have you seen my recent Brief Dwarven Suggestions about few Sounds I am sure you can process them and make them much better if the Team decides to use them! :-)

Thanks Dain, your comments always give right support to any dwarven suggestion.
P.S. I will check, processing depends of many things as you have mentioned some of them.

[LordDainIronfoot]

Only to Dwarven Suggestion!? o_O 
But yup the idea with the Horn is really good and will enrich the Dwarven Kingdoms in my opinion at least! :-)

[CragLord]

Only to Dwarven Suggestion!? o_O 

Oh C'Mon, you know on what I have thought. Don't play with me.

But yup the idea with the Horn is really good and will enrich the Dwarven Kingdoms in my opinion at least! :-)

Glad to hear that.