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Earth Shaker is it fair!? :)

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LordDainIronfoot:
I am with you CragLord they see only fraction of what he wrote and only what they want to see!I think any further discussion with them is pointless :-) :-)

CragLord:

--- Zitat von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am  7. Aug 2015, 11:46 ---The point is that it is not an advantage over the other factions.
I am done, good night.

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As I said above, other new units also shouldn't be some kind of advatange for other factions.  :) Simply you didn't try to undestand idea in general, you (and other similar comments) stuck with no advantage unit = no balance.

P.S. Sweet dreams.  xD


--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  7. Aug 2015, 11:47 ---I am with you CragLord they see only fraction of what he wrote and only what they want to see!I think any further discussion with them is pointless :-) :-)

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Thank you Dain, I know you are with me. I think it is versa, that I am here supporting your topic&idea!  :D  ;)

Draco100000:
So everything that you are trying to say is that you want new siege for the others factions..ok agree, but not support your idea saying that if erebor have earthshackers  now isnt balanced xD I mean this is ridicolous you have to see the gameplay, not the numbers to balance a game, becaause as far as i know, Mordor have more units than any other faction, so have more variety and versatility, is this a balance problem? No, so why earthshackers must be a problem in erebor? I mean, talk clear to the team: WE WANT new sieges to ered Luin and Iron HIlls, And not say that the earthshackers isnt fair for erebor because it is simply useless to your real objective: get new sieges for other  2 factions. Completely agree in everything except on delete earthshackers.
Give the team new concepts of gameplay to this new sieges and probably it will work, but saying that isnt fair to erebor have the earthshacker wont help your objective. I mean, we have played a lot of years with the earthshackers there isnt any real reason to delete them.

LordDainIronfoot:
I never saud I want to delete thw Earth Shakers I just said that it is an opinion!I mych prefer to be done fe changes to them to make them more useful and cool than removing them! :-) Ans as Tiberius said an Extra Unit is extra unit the numbers says it all! :-) Plus the Team will never do or agree with anything if it is just "We want it do it !..." So we are providing reasonable numbers and facts to convince them that it will ba balanced,unique and reasonable to do it and will good for the game! :-)
P.S. Even so CragLord I am glad for the help amf support! :-)

CragLord:

--- Zitat von: Draco100000 am  7. Aug 2015, 14:09 --- So everything that you are trying to say is that you want new siege for the others factions..ok agree, but not support your idea saying that if erebor have earthshackers  now isnt balanced xD I mean this is ridicolous you have to see the gameplay, not the numbers to balance a game, becaause as far as i know, Mordor have more units than any other faction, so have more variety and versatility, is this a balance problem? No, so why earthshackers must be a problem in erebor? I mean, talk clear to the team: WE WANT new sieges to ered Luin and Iron HIlls, And not say that the earthshackers isnt fair for erebor because it is simply useless to your real objective: get new sieges for other  2 factions. Completely agree in everything except on delete earthshackers.
Give the team new concepts of gameplay to this new sieges and probably it will work, but saying that isnt fair to erebor have the earthshacker wont help your objective. I mean, we have played a lot of years with the earthshackers there isnt any real reason to delete them.
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Yes, we want new siege units! xD That is point of this topic. :) Erebor bonus unit isn't main reason, it is somehow inspiration for idea of adding new units, try to look in that way. I don't support idea about removing Earthshakers, I said that few times in comments above. And about balance, faction Erebor is unbalanced (because of Earth shakers) in number of avaliable units for production. I didn't say that earthshakers are OP like single Unit! They are not, currently, and this is not making any unbalance! (unbalance only exist in greater number of this unit,like I said above, if you successed to produce and somehow use few of them in same time with Gloin etc, they do rock and roll to buildings in area. You know this, you play with Erebor... Anyway, this is only effect you can get from this "extra" unit, and other faction can't. To be clear: Earthshakers are only reason for adding new unique siege, there is no reason for removing them.)  I am not for making them op or some hardcore buff, I am maybe for changing them somehow, again I am not supporting or like idea about removing them. They represent very nice concept.
Simply you are stuck with someone's idea about removing them. :)

P.S. Balistas should be same for IronHils, good against Monsters, but should have some limitations like Earthshakers have great attack cool down... Simply, I think you understand my preposition in general, just you are stuck with that removing. :) I am not for idea about removing them. :)
 

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