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Adamin:

--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am 21. Dez 2015, 20:00 ---But I must say the most correct Symbol of the House of Durin is Durin's Crown with the Seven Stars! :-)

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Weeeell, that's debatable. Wouldn't Durins Crown be more likely a Symbol of Durin himself and his royalty? I think his personal sigil can be separated from the sigil of the Longbeard House.

LordDainIronfoot:
Well you do have a point Adamin mate,but lets consider that all Heirs of Durin are considered as somehow his reincarnations to a degree!So yeah I guess the Crown can be his Royal Seal but also his House Seal while his Clan can have the other one! :)

But as I said you make good point and indeed it might be so,that he has his own Seal and the Clan and his Heirs another! :)

CragLord:
I think that complete symbol was about Durin's house. I am thinking on this symbol:


Concening its parts, this is what I have found in lore:
The stars represented the constellation of the Valacirca, or the Plough, which Durin saw above his head when he looked into the Kheled-zâram.
Crown is probably supreme symbol, he was father of dwarves, and his line was only line of kings amoung dwarves. So I agree, crown was probably to point that  royal line of kings among all dwarven houses was from Durin.
And anvil with hammer is about smithing and their creator Aule.
I was suggesting this anvil hammer part as general symbol and it is not smart not to add it on one banner while other two have that symbol already in my opinion.
I don't know where did you find information about anvil and hammer to be official symbol of Longbeard clan (if you can to share source :) ), but if that is true, I think that is one more reason to add it on IH banner, because those dwarves (IH) were Longbeards mainly in origin.

Regards,
CragLord

Adamin:
Guys, I'd love to discuss that with you, but since it's more about lore than Edains dwarves, I think this topic would be better posted in the Lore Corner. ;)

CragLord:
This has been started as a minor suggestion which was about one of Edains dwarven banners, so it was correlated to those models in precise way.
I would also like to continue discussion in lore section if it is needed. :)
Some new info and new source material is always welcomed. ;)

Regards,
CragLord

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