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New unit for Isengard Early game. (+ ideas)

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Skeeverboy:
I haven't know, that he was Isen, it was my first Rohan play in 4.1.2 :D
And I know that I haven't play good, but he have abload it without my permission :D
I have experiment on this Replay, not play right.

Elite KryPtik:

--- Zitat von: Adrigabbro am 28. Aug 2015, 18:08 ---Even though I agree that Herr Skeever plays Mordor a lot better than Rohan :D , you KryPtik wouldn't have done anything like that for the only reason you could NOT have known how he started, because Rohan doesn't have any power to scout. But I agree with you on the idea: you have to harass as much as you can when you play Rohan, especially when you are facing Isengard. Skeever did not do it well in this replay. If you want to see Rohan winning Isengard, check one of my last replays in the strategy section (the game was played on Brandywine)

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My strategy remains the same regardless of whether or not I know what my enemy is. Rohan needs to end the game quickly, because they stand no chance late game. So any good player is extremely aggressive, and I would have gone to his base even though I didn't know what faction he was. Once I saw he was Isengard, I would have just redoubled my efforts to bring him down quickly. Once the current beta is made public and I can play with normal people again, I'll happily 1v1 anybody who wants to as Rohan with them as Isengard, so I can show just how hopeless it is for Isengard. That won't be for a couple of weeks though, because of the beta :)

Also Skeever, sorry if I came off as rude, wasn't trying to be. I don't think people should require permission to upload replays though, if you are going to experiment you should probably do it offline against AI :P

Mogat:
I'm ready to play a 1v1 at any time. In my opinion Isengart can beat rohan. You can proove me wrong if you want.

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
@Kryptik: Such an overly aggressive start will be punished by any player who knows that it might be coming though. Admittedly, i didn't play that matchup yet, so this is all theorycrafting; it still seems quite simple to me. Get the corrupted ground spell (whatever it is called) and the peasants will just die and feed my scouts. If I start with an uruk pit and one/two lumber mill(s) I can just counter your aggression by being aggressive myself, destroy your only farm and suddenly you are left with nothing but your citadel. Defense towers should also wreck your few peasants when they try to bring down my base.

And btw I'm also curious to play that matchup^^ (Kryptik, I'll send you a pm on how to switch between the beta and the official version)

Elite KryPtik:
Traitors beat scouts with Théoden's leadership and Horn of Rohan, even if fighting on Tainted Land. The only way to beat this strategy is to get Bill Ferny and level him up to level 10, but this leaves you with no money for economy buildings, while Rohan is getting tons of resources the whole time. You could also go and destroy my farm, if you were fast enough to get there before my peasants were made to protect it, but it will have already generated enough resources to get an inner farm, while I wreck all of your economy buildings. Also, like you said, you have to know its coming. Add in the ignorance of playing random vs random, and what you have is a loss for Isengard. Also, if you make towers to kill my traitors, I just switch targets to towers and quickly kill them, wasting 150 of your resources.


--- Zitat von: Mogat am 28. Aug 2015, 18:52 ---I'm ready to play a 1v1 at any time. In my opinion Isengart can beat rohan. You can proove me wrong if you want.

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Yes, they do beat Rohan late game very easily, but a skilled, aggressive player can easily shut down and kill Isengard as Rohan.

I know how to change between normal and beta version, but I don't want to because I'm playing a lot of the beta to find bugs.

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