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Brief Dwarven Suggestions

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LordDainIronfoot:
I do not like the idea of Dwrves with two Axes!Wielding Two Weapons is somethign which takes a lot of skill and exprirince similar to how Two Handed Weapons are much harder to use! So I think wielding two Axes is something for Heroes like Dwalin!
PLus I really think the Twa Axes will make them look lie omse berserkers than  disciplined Dwarven Army! But that is of course simply my personal opinion! :)

CragLord:
I understand personal preferences, it is very used word here. :)

But same is with shield+one weapon combination, you need also experience for that, maybe even greater then in case of two single handed weapons. In term of strength, shield + one weapon is much harder, so it is also much more difficult to handle instead of 2 single handed weapons. Also I disagree that 2 single handed weapons are only for heroes, in case of Khazad Dum veterans this combination looks great, so I really don't know why it shouldn't be used in case of regular unit. I think that be unique because only IH guardians will have this kind of weapons  in dwarven factions as regular unit (beside Khazad Dum veterans ofc). Also when they got more offensive experience they will get upgrade of two handed axe which will have same armor effect in game. For me this looks very gradient and logical. :)
I agree two axes will make them look more dangerous but that is not reason they can't be disciplined Dwarven army. They will have proper armor and 2 single handed axes, for me that is more offensive unit, but disciplined one.
P.S. Bersekers are for me some half naked crazy units who are going to kill themself or destroy enemie, I really don't find this in case of proposal for IH guardians...

LordDainIronfoot:
Well Khazad Dum Veterans can use 2 Weapons so IHs Having 2 will not be so unique anyway! :) I ahve never said that 2 Weapns weapons should be only for Heroes I jsut said that Dwalin is an Example of SKill and EXP to wield such Weapons! :) I disagree about Shield + Weapon being as hard or harder,it is much esier to deffend with Shield and Attack than Attack and Defend only with 2 Weapons! :) The New Dwarven CaH can have 2 Weapons too,so I really tihnk giving IHs that will not add anythign new to the Game nor will be looking so good!:) But as I said it is my opinion about the Dwarves and all! :0

And let's not forget that if we go by Lore the only IHs Dwarf which is aid to use Axe is Dain while the Veterans which are Veterans used Two Handed Mattocks and Short Brough Swords which suggest that IHs Soldiers prefer to use those 2 kind of Weapons! :)

Greetings! :)

bookworm1138:
I think this is the right place to share this.

Here are a few extra lines for Dain Ironfoot (either IH or Erebor version). Tried to get them as clear as possible, but if I prefer especially tracks 3 and 7 for their significance to the lore of the character and of the Dwarves.

https://soundcloud.com/1truvikingbard/sets/dain-ironfoot-for-edain-mod

Garlodur:
Nice sampling from the movies! I always felt that Dáin was lacking some personality in Edain. I really liked some of the quotes EA made for him in vanilla, but there's no way the creators are going to put them back.

Quote 1 I personally find a bit too long, I generally do not enjoy quotes this long because they continue after I've selected another unit, leading to unintelligible rambling.
Quote 2 can be used for when Dáin mounts his boar because it can be heard in the background. Obviously for Lord Dáin only.
Quote 3 for his ability Baruk Khazad! as Lord Dáin or also the 'Defend the Halls' ability as King Dáin.
Quote 4 and 5 are regular attack order quotes, but more suited for battle than the current ones.
In quote 6 I'm not sure what is said, something like 'Khazad-du bekâ'. It could be used for when Dáin retreats or for King Dáin's Defend the Halls ability.
Quote 7 is also definitely usable for attack orders, possibly also for King Dáin's 'Defend the Halls'.
Quote 8 might be used for just before Dáin dies, or when he retreats back to the camp.

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