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Odysseus:
Hello gents,

I have a few suggestions again. These are only points of interest. Nothing important really, but perhaps a few ideas to give some love & care to Rohan.

1. Would it possible to keep the hero icons for the Westfold heroes even when they summon a troop of faithful? I think it would be very useful and prevent some confusions.

2. Would it be possible to give the Royal Guard shields? I find it a bit strange that the heaviest Rohan unit would go to combat without shields. Also, it could have benefits, making them less susceptible to pike counter trample. If this already is the case, it would at least serve as a visual representation of that.

3. Rohan seems to have two lance models, the one peasants use and the one rohirrim use. Now Rohirrim, I think, use the lance models from the standard BFME II game. I would like to ask if you could use the lance model used by the Farmhands, Westfold spearmen, Eowyn etc and make that the standard spear, so that every unit using a spear uses that model, since it is quite more detailed and Rohan-like :P.

4. I believe Rohan could also use some more diversification. It would be nice to give Rohirrim, Eastfold Rohirrim, Royal Guard some variation when it comes to weaponry. A mix of swords, axes, lances since in the LOTR movies, Rohan has very diversified weaponry amongst its ranks, especially during charges. I believe it is linked to Rohan being more traditional and akin to Anglo-Saxon culture, which also had very loose rules when it came to mixing weaponry among formations.

Just a few thoughts that might give Rohan some attention and care. If I have anymore, I will post them here again.

Kind regards.

Elite KryPtik:

--- Zitat von: Odysseus am  3. Okt 2015, 13:06 --- Hello gents,

I have a few suggestions again. These are only points of interest. Nothing important really, but perhaps a few ideas to give some love & care to Rohan.

1. Would it possible to keep the hero icons for the Westfold heroes even when they summon a troop of faithful? I think it would be very useful and prevent some confusions.
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This has already been discussed and requested by people including me, according to the team its not possible. Every unit in the battalion would appear on the hero bar.


--- Zitat ---2. Would it be possible to give the Royal Guard shields? I find it a bit strange that the heaviest Rohan unit would go to combat without shields. Also, it could have benefits, making them less susceptible to pike counter trample. If this already is the case, it would at least serve as a visual representation of that.
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I don't have much input on whether to give them shields or not, although it does make a lot of sense. In terms of their pike resistance, the team has stated they will make Royal Guards able to dismount in the future, to improve their versatility and improve Rohans late game.


--- Zitat ---3. Rohan seems to have two lance models, the one peasants use and the one rohirrim use. Now Rohirrim, I think, use the lance models from the standard BFME II game. I would like to ask if you could use the lance model used by the Farmhands, Westfold spearmen, Eowyn etc and make that the standard spear, so that every unit using a spear uses that model, since it is quite more detailed and Rohan-like :P.
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A spear's a spear dude :P. Seriously though, people don't have time to look at the fine details of a spear in the middle of a game, and I doubt an unnecessary cosmetic change like this really matters right now, maybe once all factions are released and balanced.


--- Zitat ---4. I believe Rohan could also use some more diversification. It would be nice to give Rohirrim, Eastfold Rohirrim, Royal Guard some variation when it comes to weaponry. A mix of swords, axes, lances since in the LOTR movies, Rohan has very diversified weaponry amongst its ranks, especially during charges. I believe it is linked to Rohan being more traditional and akin to Anglo-Saxon culture, which also had very loose rules when it came to mixing weaponry among formations.
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Same as above, cosmetics aren't super important. I believe it makes sense to have the normal Rohirrim have spears, and Eastfold to have axes, based off of their roles. Eastfold are much more for melee combat thanks to their formation, while normal Riders are really only good for trampling.


--- Zitat ---Just a few thoughts that might give Rohan some attention and care. If I have anymore, I will post them here again.

Kind regards.

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Keep em coming :)

Odysseus:
Good sir KryPtik,

We meet again. Thank you for replying.

Good to see they will be able to dismount. I hope they will get some shields if they make use of swords, unlike the Royal Archers. I'm not saying Rohan is perfect, underperforming or overperforming, but they feel a little ''limited'' compared to (some of the) other factions. I probably have no authority whatsoever on this subject, but that's what I think. I'll keep on the suggestions of course.

Kind regards.

Lord of Mordor:
Hey there,

most of your suggestions have already been answered, but I just wanted to add that you're quite right about the Royal Guard shields - that simply makes sense and will be added for the next version :)

Our current thinking is that the Guard won't  be able to dismount, but get an ability that makes them considerably more powerful against pikemen for a time. This is unique amongst all cavalry in the game and should help Rohan against an enemy who focuses on pikes, but at the same time you have to use it well and can't simply dismount whenever you want. After all, making cavalry effective against their supposed counter must be handled delicately, so we'll see how it goes.

Odysseus:
Thanks again for the reply. I am curious to see what you guys will concoct.

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