Power of the Past Ages Tweaking

[The_Necromancer0]

Hello Edainers,
I was playing Mordor (as always) with a couple brutal IA and when I finally got power of the past ages and used it. As usual Gorthaur the student of Aule appeared in all his badassness and began rampaging the land of Middle-Earth. I did fell a tinge of disappointment tough knowing I would no longer benefit from this power through this game.

What I'm saying is that I feel that too many of Mordor's end game power are one use only. Grond, Power of the Past Ages, Tol-in-Gorauth. Obviously with Grond and Tol-In-Gorauth you can't change it cause having a thousand of those running around on the battlefield would be a bit unbalanced, even though Grond could be made a bit more maneuverable... But for Power of Past Ages it would be nice if it could serve another purpose. !!Disclaimer!! I'm not a modder, what I asking for could be totally impossible, if so sorry to have wasted your time!!Disclaimer!!

Power of the Past Ages
Primary Effect
[Usual effect: Necromancer into Gorthaur]

Secondary possible effects (the goal would be to pick one)
The Student of Aule or Sauron are filled temporarily with the power of the past ages. (1 min) Sauron gains a speed boost and an attack speed boost (I feel attack speed boost might be a bit OP so I leave it up to you guys to decide). Gorthaur is filled temporarly with the power of the past ages and gains a defense and attack boost.
OR
The Student of Aule or Sauron are filled temporarily with the power of the past ages. Their spells recharge faster or are improved. (Like with Celeborn: Might of the Silver One)
OR
The Student of Aule or Sauron are filled temporarily with the power of the past ages. They invest their power into Tol-In-Gorauth and make it stronger (influence of Sauron) This could include effect such as: Morgul Spire ability unlocked or Defense plots appearing around the fortress or overall permanent defense/attack boost, or specific aura unlocked (dread face, leadership, ect...)
OR
The Student of Aule or Sauron are filled temporarily with the power of the past ages. They summon a rain of meteor that one kill everything on the map and gives them victory because Mordor is best faction ever and should be the only faction in the edain mod. ASH NAZG DURBATULÛK!!!

Last one is a joke

Thanks for you time 
Hope you consider (might be a bit op though, not sure)

P.S: If I spent as much effort on my essays I would have finished school early. But then again if my essays were this interesting I probably would.

[Elite KryPtik]

I agree that it would be nice for this to be useful after Sauron becomes Gorthaur. My suggestion would be to make it a similar system to Galadriels gifts of lorien, where if you use it on another hero besides Sauron it gives them some kind of a boost, although what boosts are appropriate I would leave up to the team.

The Student of Aule or Sauron are filled temporarily with the power of the past ages. They summon a rain of meteor that one kill everything on the map and gives them victory because Mordor is best faction ever and should be the only faction in the edain mod. ASH NAZG DURBATULÛK!!!

Well, it didn't seem that way when your armies were getting trampled by the REAL best faction in the game at the Pelennor Fields now did it? 

[The_Necromancer0]

I like your idea of a gift of Lorien kind of thing. I mean right off the bat i can think of stuff like Mouth of Sauron: MOS is filled with power of past ages, his skills of speech are improved. Mollok is filled with the power of past ages for X time he can trample enemies without being slowed. Ect... Definitly something interesting, great idea

Well, it didn't seem that way when your armies were getting trampled by the REAL best faction in the game at the Pelennor Fields now did it?

Ohhhh... You mean that battle where your king died?  No hard feelings, huh?

[Elite KryPtik]

Ohhhh... You mean that battle where your king died?  No hard feelings, huh?

Hmmm, if I remember rightly your best warrior got killed by a woman in that same fight, along with 30 foot tall monster elephants, and all we had was horses

[The_Necromancer0]

1. That grammar loophole was Mumakil crap
2. He was heartbroken by the loss of his pet (you monsters killed it)
3. You guys were two on one and merry had a dagger of the Noldor (i think)
4.This might turn into a full Mordor vs Rohan fight (probably)
5. If it does... Mordor !!FTW!! (obviosuly)
6(and last). You guys had your full force, Mordor on the other end: concentrated on Minas Tirith, nazguls were faceless and few, no sauron.
 
P.S: the ghosts victory is just some more Mumakil Crap
P.S.2: to be taken with a pinch of salt
P.S.3: We should probably take this to another thread in general discussion, I'd actually like to see a forum thread with the idea of a debate of Rohan vs Mordor, what do you think?

[Elite KryPtik]

lol, well considering that Mordor ends up dead and Rohan survives, I don't see the point in having a debate. We win, you lose, sorry

[The_Necromancer0]

  i meant a debate where you guys don't have ghosts
and also corpses everywhere, rotting, plagues, the wall of helms deep all over the place, minas tirith in ruins, the age of men crippled more corpses at the black gate.

You guys would probably die of plagues but you do have good point on the end all be all of the matter

I was seeing more of a: both armies at full force, using events from books to justify stuff, even playing field

[Gnomi]

And now please come back to topic and continue your really funny conversation with PMs.^^

[The_Necromancer0]

OK, so getting back on topic. I just played a game: rivendell: ME (Mordor) vs Two AI (Brutal: Isengard and Gondor). I was on the bottom left and the AI in the other spots. As it often happens on small maps(at least with me) Gollum was found early in the game. So i gathered up my 1k and got Sauron and i put a ring on it
This once again emphasizes the change that needs to be made to Power of Past Ages. Once I got to the last tier of power I had the choice between Grond (a bit buggy and doesn't like to go through doors) and Power of Paste Ages which was as useful as a soggy flaming arrow.
So Edain team, once again hear my plea and refer to my above post or the one just under of Elite KryPtik (King of Rohan, whose mind is overthrown :p )

[The_Necromancer0]

I'll also mention the fact that this is also an ongoing question on the German side of the forum with 17 pages of replies
http://forum.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,31640.0.html
http://forum.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,31720.0.html
http://forum.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,31632.0.html