The Road to Edain 4.0: Your feedback

[Walküre]

I feel I can relate to Odysseus, in the sense that I'm adapting to the new spellbook structure more and more as time passes, along with considering each significant aspect with a more insightful mindset.

Apart from internal testing, it's absolutely wonderful to notice how further steps towards uniqueness/differentiation are being constantly made. Specifically, other Mods may excel in certain aspects, but I believe that the Edain Mod is the only one which can boast the extraordinary quality of following in the footsteps of the BFME series, of offering innovative mechanics and extremely smart systems (in a radically new spirit), of creating a very multicoloured universe and of feeding from all the canonical sources equally (from LOTR and the Hobbit films at the same time). It's indeed this coherent harmony and solid architecture what I haven't found yet in other projects. May things continue along this successful path.

[Slawek56703]

I like new effect of Sauron Eye spell .
Nice to see Edain Team changed Endless Hordes spell with Banners of the Black Land to avert bugs , but i have question :
Does Mordor, Minas Morgul and Dol Guldur Orc Warriors will no longer get Banner upgrade ?

I like this new Summon Overseers spell making this unit more unique , but I have questions : Will AI use this spell too and does this mean overseers no longer will be recruitable and also how Extension of Power tasks to make Sauron level up will be affected by this change or maybe it remain unchanged ?

Overall good work ET like always

[FG15]

The Road to Edain 4.5: The Lord of the Iron Hills

[The_Necromancer0]

Damn, really hyped for the rework!  Love the new Dain. 

[Julio229]

The new Dain is so awesome, the best thing that has ever been done in BFMEII! I hope to finally see Déagol in the Hobbit Faction, that's the Hero I want the most, but he is tied with Odo Proudfoot.

[lordoflinks]

Is the Dain rework an April Fools? If so, that is evil. Otherwise, I really like the new Dain, which makes me think how is Old Dain reworked?
My only suggestion would be to rename Diplomacy of the Strongest to Vendetta, as the current name is too long, and for me Vendetta is iconic. 

[FG15]

As most of you have already guessed, this update was our April Fools. Thank you all for participating, and we hope you had fun.

[lordoflinks]

As most of you have already guessed, this update was our April Fools. Thank you all for participating, and we hope you had fun.

You guys are evil to make something people want, reworking of Dain, into an April Fools Joke. I did not have fun.

[Odysseus]

You guys are evil to make something people want, reworking of Dain, into an April Fools Joke. I did not have fun.

Ooh boy, we have a special snowflake here . I also would like to see Dain of Iron Hills return to his old self again in the future, but I saw the date and snorted. Take it easy mate.
I hope all is well for the rest .
We evil masterminds at Edain will continue scheming for world domination *laughs in evil*.

[The_Necromancer0]

*laughs in evil*.

Hey! That's my job 

[Dain@]

Hello ! (Sorry for my English)
Great joke  ! And at the same time very sad. A great joke is because you with such a creative have raised this news! Original and insidious !
But still I will ask: Will Dain (both) be redone in the future  ???
And in general in the near future will there be new news ???
I will be very grateful for your reply.

[FG15]

We will likely do a few more hero reworks in 4.5, but I can't promise anything yet.
The next news, we have prepared get delayed due to some development issues. So there will be news again.

[Walküre]

You guys are evil to make something people want, reworking of Dain, into an April Fools Joke. I did not have fun.

There wouldn't be much point in coming up with an ineffective April Fool. I guess it's consequential that something ought to have some sort of impact on people. By the way, as FG's words might infer, it's not impossible that they do opt for overhauls concerning heroes, someday in the future. Something I'm really looking forward to.

[lordoflinks]

You guys are evil to make something people want, reworking of Dain, into an April Fools Joke. I did not have fun.

There wouldn't be much point in coming up with an ineffective April Fool. I guess it's consequential that something ought to have some sort of impact on people. By the way, as FG's words might infer, it's not impossible that they do opt for overhauls concerning heroes, someday in the future. Something I'm really looking forward to.

You are right in that an April Fools joke needs to be effective, but I would argue this one felt like a joke at the community's expense. As someone who has both promoted the need for change among the Dains and seen widespread support for that change this feels like the Edain Team acknowledged the desire for that change but rather than act on it decided to make it into a joke concept which leaves a sour taste in my mouth. To put it into perspective imagine if they made your Galadrial Concept into an April Fools Joke. In any case judging from a quick glace at Mod DB, most people liked the joke concept more then the current Dain.

I do really like Charge of the Iron Hills however, and I think that would be a wonderful ability to have on Young Dain, and would allow the Barracks to be given to Old Dain thus eliminating the lackluster troop summoning ability. 

[Walküre]

You are right in that an April Fools joke needs to be effective, but I would argue this one felt like a joke at the community's expense.

It's certainly noble that you hold your ideas and propositions in high consideration, but, coming from someone who is quite acquainted with the most diverse typology of concepts, I would advise you not take too much seriously something that shouldn't deserve such attention. The 1st of April is like carnival: an exceptional parenthesis, in which the customary rules of reason or logic don't apply with reality for a day. One should thus view that as what it truly represents; that is, a pure and simple joke.

Also, if they were to make my proposal into an April Fool, I would be much honoured, for it would mean that the suggestion at least succeeded in sparking some kind of interest, somewhere throughout the dark pits of this forum