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General Balance Discussion

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DrHouse93:
Yes, but that would require you to spend CP for units to defend all your buildings, and also, not all the swordsmen are equally effective (for example, Rohan Peasants, Mordor Orcs or Thrall Masters)

Furthermore, the problem is not a single ram, but when the enemy starts sending say 4 of them at the same building, while simultaneously sending other 4 at another one, and so on

-Mandos-:
Same argument as always: You can get like 4-5 units of peasants per ram which destroy it in absolutly no time. So, if he sends like ten rams you can keep 10 units of peasants close to your base and destroy them all, have a money advantage elsewhere and another money advantage because your peasants didnt die but killed a lot or rams (=resources)...

Elite KryPtik:
The problem isn't that the rams can be killed, the problem is how cost effective they are. Our entire argument is not based around the health of the ram. If you are on the offensive killing enemy things in the field and he sneaks 5 rams into your base, then what can you do? Nobody leaves 5 battalions of infantry to guard their freaking base while they are on the offensive! Not to mention, with army support rams can walk right through troops and deal horrific damage before you can kill them, even with troops hitting them they will get a hit or 2 of their own off and deal extreme damage to the structure. 10 rams + 10 basic infantry can destroy most bases regardless of defense.

Draco100000:

--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am 28. Mai 2016, 19:50 ---Nobody leaves 5 battalions of infantry to guard their freaking base while they are on the offensive!

--- Ende Zitat ---

Why not? I mean if you know your enemie is going to attack your base you have to defend it no matter if you want to attack him it doesnt mean he shouldnt be able to attack yours, this is not a lineal game, this is strategy, just puting on ofensive a few melee battallions and gg rams are down, Your enemie wasted money and you can attack with no problem while you have some troops in the back.

DrHouse93:
I agree that dealing with rams in lategame isn't so hard, the problem is another. First of all, the ram spam may be extremely effective even on mid game, when you're still building your army, your opponent can send 4 rams on a farm, 4 on another, 4 on another, and so on, therefore drawing your attention and thwarting economy and development, while you have to send your troops in several spots to kill those rams, or even worse, being forced to leave - for example - two swordsmen on a farm, two on another, two on another, and so on, which means a smaller army, fewer CPs and fewer resources

Furthermore, as Elite said (and I agree with him), even in lategame they can deal terrible damage, because they can walk with no problems between troops and smash a lot of buildings before you can make them harmless (the same happens with catapults: what can you do when your opponent has 7-8 of them - or even more - all clumped in the same spot, bombing your base, while his troops just stand around them preventing anyone from destroying them?)

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