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Dwarven Balance Discussion

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-Mandos-:
The first fight between Celeborn and Thorin was just a misplay from the Celeborn player, Celeborn would have won this if he played properly and in the second fight against Thorin with Mithril he loses only by one hit, so its really close. And as Elite already said, Celeborn gets stronger the more enemy heroes there are so this is fine for me

Odysseus:
Hmm, good points. Although, I was talking about a 1v1 experiment where both where level 10. I agree with unit counters and different pricing depending on army composition, but when it comes to units with the same role, the one that has a higher price should simply win, in my opinion. I didn't claim Thorin III needs a nerf, just that his new ability set is perhaps not finalised yet, and could still use some fine-tuning.

FG15:
Thorin hasn't exactly the same role as Celeborn, because he is also a tank, while Celeborn is a pure Hero killer.

Odysseus:
Which makes him even stronger, especially for his cost. I'll rest my case, just that I find the price disparity of 1800 versus 2300 for a pure hero killer to a tank/hero killer hybrid a bit unfair. Lothlorien already have trouble dealing with the Iron Hills match-up as it is.

Draco100000:
When looking at balancing you cannot simplify to 1v1 hero battles....

You have to keep in mind every single way of playing with both factions and then analice if 1 thing make too strong 1 faction vs all others or in 1 special matchup. So in a 1v1 Elves vs dwarves, elves have better start while dwarves better midgame and Elves better Lategame. Celeborn will kill dwarven Heros if well combined with your troops. He is great hero killer and his cost is fine cause the entire roster of Lothlorien is incredibly strong, at that point I think there is no better faction than them.

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