Dwarven Balance Discussion

[Tirano]

is normal that thorin give 1600 per hero kill.... i think is to much at leas when i kill galadrien that give me

[Draco100000]

Its normal since it gaves money depending on how powerfull the enemie is. orcs give 1 while structures and other stuff give much more, and heros depending on their power and cost. I dont think it is that op, since he gets this passive at lvl 5.

[Julio229]

Am I the only one who thinks Erebor units die too fast? I mean, they are attack-centered, but even fully upgraded, they die so fast. I don't play Erebor much because of this, I believe they are too weak.

EDIT: Specially the Axe-Throwers, a Battlewagon trampling a fully-upgraded Erebor Axe-Throwers battalion brings them to half-health.

[Odysseus]

See this is why they need the old King Dain back, to give them some survivability.

[Julio229]

Yes, that's right. The change in Dain's abilities took away both the defensive bonuses that you could get with Erebor to help troops survive, and the attack bonuses that really helped Iron Hills. I almost always used Dáin before the update, but now I don't use him that much, because more attack for my troops isn't going to mean they will not die, and Erebor troops die so fast without Dain supporting their defenses.

I like the three Dwarven Realms, but in this update I mostly use Ered Luin because of this. I can play Iron Hills as well as before (With more difficulties because of the change), but Erebor has been hindered a lot with the change.

[LordDainIronfoot]

I think the same too,about erebro Soldiers dying fast!

Dain neeeds his Old Skill set!

[Odysseus]

Another thing I noticed: Drar's Barrage ability does very little damage. I think a buff is in order. I only took about 20%~ health from a full-health level 1 Mordor Orc Pikemen.

[Sawman]

I think it's meant for buildings if I'm not mistaken. He is the building destroyer (not sure why) of the faction.

[Odysseus]

Well, the ability states that it is powerful against both infantry and buildings. I will test it again, hopefully later tonight.

[Ealendril der Dunkle]

No, the ability is strong against buildings. It does siege damage.

[Odysseus]

Okay, then the description should be updated. It says that it does good damage against both buildings and infantry.

Edit: So I tested it again, and it just does lackluster damage overall. It can't even take down an economy building, nor heavily damage it. I'd like the damage to be upped a bit.

[DrHouse93]

Hi everyone^^

In your opinion, which Dwarven Realm is better against which faction?

[Sawman]

Erid Luin beats everything very well #op

Erebor seems to struggle against most factions but they seem to do good against Gondor

Iron hills is good against everything late game but isn't very good until then against most factions

[Elite KryPtik]

Ered Luins speed and heroes with multiple stacking leaderships are impossible to counter.

[Julio229]

Ered Luin is the best Dwarven faction, they can beat everyone. Iron Hills come close, but fail to be as great because of the Dáin switch and his Ring Hero aura, but they are really strong in late-game anyways. Erebor are the worst, their units die really fast even when upgraded and the Dáin switch hurts them too, and are overall the weakest of them.