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Dwarven Balance Discussion

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Elite KryPtik:
Well I did bring it up and said Narin needs a nerf in my earlier post, but you are right of course. Just nerfing Narin won't be enough, the ram riders are pretty OP too just on their own.

Draco100000:
Im completely agree to nerf this ridicolous ram riders who can kill any unit in the game.

I dont know if this is a bug but Balin stats are really low, just 3500 health and 350 dmg for a hero who cost 1600? I think he should be buffed at least in health to 4500 or 5000.

I know Thorin is strong as well dwalin but other heros like Hwaldar, the nazgul , gamling, beregond etc who cost around 1000 and 1400 have more than 400 dmg and around 4000 -5000 health. I just think that balin should have equal stats at least xD.(Thinking in how outnumbered can be the dwarvfen heros they used to have better stats, but I think they have almost same stats than others), but Balin now is too weak to deal with any hero.

I also know that you can give him mithril but thats something of the mid to late game while balin should be an early to mid game hero.( And in my opinion Mithril shouldnt be necesary to get the same strong as other faction heros, i think it should be an advantage).

Hamanathnath:
Balin does have a low amount of health, but I think that is balanced out by how strong every other hero is, and how many summon heroes you can get, and also being able to get Mithril.

Anyways, I would like to make a proposal concerning the Mithril Shirts for heroes.  Because of the limit on how many Dwarven Khazad-dum Veterans you can have at one time(which is 3), it is hard to get your heroes Mithril.  To get all your heroes Mithril, you have to kill off some of your Veterans.  Now this isn't much of a problem for Erebor, becuase they only have 4 heroes who can get Mithril (because Nori gets it automatically once he reaches level 10), but for Iron Hills with 5 heroes, and Ered Luin with 7 heroes, this is more of a problem.  I don't think people should be sacrificing their heroic units to improve their heroes. 

So my suggestion is that Veterans have a cooldown on their Mithril Shirt Ability.  The cooldown will be extremely long (say 8 mins or so), but this means that you will not have to kill them to get more Mithril Shirts. 

Now Ered Luin would still have to wait a long time to get all their heroes Mithril Shirts, so I have a suggestion for them.  I think Bilbo should get his Mithril Shirt automatically once Thorin Oakenshield is recruited.  Not only does this make sense in terms of lore (or at leas I'd assume so, it's shown in the Hobbit Movies and Mentioned in the Lord of the Rings movies), but it would make 1 less hero to give Mithril too.  Bilbo is usually the last person you should give mithril too because the other heroes need it more, so this would make it easier for every hero to get Mithril.

I would like to hear opinion on these suggestions.

Greetings, Hamanathnath

Draco100000:

--- Zitat von: Hamanathnath am  7. Apr 2016, 15:47 ---Balin does have a low amount of health, but I think that is balanced out by how strong every other hero is, and how many summon heroes you can get, and also being able to get Mithril.

Anyways, I would like to make a proposal concerning the Mithril Shirts for heroes.  Because of the limit on how many Dwarven Khazad-dum Veterans you can have at one time(which is 3), it is hard to get your heroes Mithril.  To get all your heroes Mithril, you have to kill off some of your Veterans.  Now this isn't much of a problem for Erebor, becuase they only have 4 heroes who can get Mithril (because Nori gets it automatically once he reaches level 10), but for Iron Hills with 5 heroes, and Ered Luin with 7 heroes, this is more of a problem.  I don't think people should be sacrificing their heroic units to improve their heroes. 

So my suggestion is that Veterans have a cooldown on their Mithril Shirt Ability.  The cooldown will be extremely long (say 8 mins or so), but this means that you will not have to kill them to get more Mithril Shirts. 

Now Ered Luin would still have to wait a long time to get all their heroes Mithril Shirts, so I have a suggestion for them.  I think Bilbo should get his Mithril Shirt automatically once Thorin Oakenshield is recruited.  Not only does this make sense in terms of lore (or at leas I'd assume so, it's shown in the Hobbit Movies and Mentioned in the Lord of the Rings movies), but it would make 1 less hero to give Mithril too.  Bilbo is usually the last person you should give mithril too because the other heroes need it more, so this would make it easier for every hero to get Mithril.

I would like to hear opinion on these suggestions.

Greetings, Hamanathnath

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So all the heros i have mentioned before shouldnt have reduced health too? I mean Hwaldar is much more usefull than balin, as well Beregond. I think it is unfair Balin being that weak.

Sawman:
Balin is very useful, probably one of the best supporters in the game if you can get him leveled, he makes your heros able to take on an entire army because of his runes that he can give out. Not to mention he can save your entire army from certain death with a teleport that has no limit to how far it can go plus he has a rebuild so I can understand why he has low stats because it evens out his usefulness

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