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Dwarven Balance Discussion

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Draco100000:

--- Zitat von: Sawman am  8. Apr 2016, 05:17 ---Balin is very useful, probably one of the best supporters in the game if you can get him leveled, he makes your heros able to take on an entire army because of his runes that he can give out. Not to mention he can save your entire army from certain death with a teleport that has no limit to how far it can go plus he has a rebuild so I can understand why he has low stats because it evens out his usefulness

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Camon is 1600 hero how can be this balanced is completely useless in hero vs hero battles cant deal with any enemie hero, is a great disadvantage that have no sense. If all supports of 1000-1400 would have the same stats as him i wouldnt say anything.;( His runes get countdown, a big one so you only can get 1 hero fully runned in lategame, he is very nerfed and he only have 1 usefull abilitie the teleport. I think he just have to get more health, get same stats of a nazgul or as hwaldar/gamling.... He is more expensive than them. He is easily killed and his cost make get him out a trouble if he dies several times because his weakness. This is not fair at all.

Elite KryPtik:
Well Draco, what I will say is this, I think both sides raise good points, but I also think you are a tiny bit biased. We all know you really like Balin :P
In any case, what I personally do is just wait to get Balin after I get Thorin and Bofur, Bofur costing the same as Balin, and by this point I usually have Mithril anyways, so it doesn't matter. So for ME, and my playstyle, his stats are fine. That's just me personally.

Draco100000:

--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  8. Apr 2016, 17:26 ---Well Draco, what I will say is this, I think both sides raise good points, but I also think you are a tiny bit biased.
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Biased because i use a lot the dwarves?camon i dont care at all if they dont change it, I have seen something strange: a expensive hero with low stats: i thought it was a bug, if it is not ok. But there is no balance argument that can make me change in opinion.

--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  8. Apr 2016, 17:26 ---what I personally do...
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Well that is your way to play, Balin is support so I think he should be recruited first to start get expirience and be usefull in later stages of the game.
Im not talking at all about how he should be used with his actual stats, im comparing him with other factions and making a reasonable proposal.
Mithril is not an excuse because it is optional, as well the gifts of galadriel or the buffs of the Witchking.

I would say that comparing him to other dwarven heros his abilitie roster is also the weaker.

But that is my opinion the thing that matter is that his stats dont fit with his price and role and something should change.

Odysseus:
Hello folks, I wanted to suggest something. I find that the Dwarven Stronghold summon is kind of underperforming as it is. Especially the catapults are kind of average and overpriced. I wanted to ask to slightly increase the damage of the catapults on the Fortress and as well as reduce the price of the purchasable catapults on the Fortress to the same level as the catapults you can buy on Fortress Defense Plots, so 1800-> 900-1000-1100ish.

Any thoughts?

Elite KryPtik:

--- Zitat von: Odysseus am  8. Apr 2016, 23:42 ---Hello folks, I wanted to suggest something. I find that the Dwarven Stronghold summon is kind of underperforming as it is. Especially the catapults are kind of average and overpriced. I wanted to ask to slightly increase the damage of the catapults on the Fortress and as well as reduce the price of the purchasable catapults on the Fortress to the same level as the catapults you can buy on Fortress Defense Plots, so 1800-> 900-1000-1100ish.

Any thoughts?

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Agree.

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