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Battle of Dale
Fredius:
2. Yes perhaps Bain already retired from being king and gave the crown to his son.
3. Don't worry mate I marked it down for you ;):
ThorinsNemesis:
2.Yeah that is perhaps the most logical theory in the movie timeline; we can guess that maybe during the Battle the old Bain was in Erebor because he couldn't fight?
3.Thank you my friend, now I know that the awesome AUJ armor was still used again in WOTR, only a part of the Erebor Dwarves started wearing Iron Hills armor too :)
NetoD20:
2.I'd say that PJ didn't necessarily remove the 17 years gap, but rather that he didn't want the passage of time to show or to be important in his movie in order to give a feeling of urgency to the plot. We know Gandalf strides out of the shire after the party and travels as far as Minas Tirith and back again, we don't know how much time he's out by the time he returns to the Shire.
3.There were no Erebor dwarves, the dwarves who fled Erebor after the dragon's attack were scattered across the land or formed colonies in the Blue Mountains. I believe that recovered Erebor was taken largely by Iron Hills dwarves under Lord and now King Dáin. Of course old refugees from 60 years ago must have returned to the mountain from Ered Luin, Dunland and other places, but it is my belief that Erebor was colonized mainly by Iron Hills dwarves with Iron Hills customs under a king from the Iron Hills.
ThorinsNemesis:
2.Well actually I remember somewhere PJ (or someone else) said that he condensed the time - the 18 years are now a few weeks or so.
3.Well as far as I know, most of the surviving Dwarves of Erebor travelled back to Erebor from the Blue Mountains after the Quest of Erebor; and while Dain was from the Iron Hills and with no doubt some Iron Hills dwarves resided in Erebor from then on, I think it is logical that a part of the army would wear the Erebor armor from AUJ, and maybe Dain adopted some of Erebor's customs too, in honor of the glorious days of the past :).
bookworm1138:
--- Zitat von: Fredius am 24. Okt 2015, 02:03 ---On the last pictures you can find elder Dwalin and Gloin ;).
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didn't Dwalin die before Gloin came to Rivendell for the Council of Elrond?
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