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SP19XX:
I was actually thinking that Legolas should have his archer train skill replaced. In its current format by the time it's unlocked it's very lackluster because most of Loriens archers can level up before its effective. Perhaps one of these could replace it;

Mount/Dismount - Legolas was quite often seen mounted on a horse and it would make him the only other mounted ranged hero (Gamling being the other). Plus it would allow him to act as a support for Thranduil and the Elk Riders.

Leadership that benefits archers in some form. - This ones a bit trickier on the exact mechanics but it would also serve as a buff to a number of units, maybe increasing their attack speed to match his own?

A skill that temporarily summons Gimli and / or Aragorn, that draws all aggression to himself in a short range, similar to the Ered Luin summons.

There are other potential options of course but I find that skill to be underwhelming as it is.

Odysseus:
While I think that your reasoning is sound, and you propose some interesting things, I also believe that Legolas is already a pretty solid hero and I think this issue has an easier solution, namely by unlocking the ability at an earlier level. Saruman unlocks his power of speech at level 3 and he is more expensive than Legolas, so there is perhaps incentive for that. Switch around Hawk Strike and Train Archers, for instance.

The Mount/Dismount might actually be interesting, but then Gamling kind of gets pooped on haha.

Melkor Bauglir:

--- Zitat ---Switch around Hawk Strike and Train Archers, for instance.

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I don't like this idea. "Hawk Strike" is a very elementar spell in Legolas' arsenal, personally I think it was better off as his starting ability, but I get the reason for switching it with his melee ability. However having his signature snipe ability only unlocked at level 5 (or 7? Isn't his level 5 spell "Elven eye"? I don't know, please forgive me. xD) would be way too late.

Greetings
Melkor Bauglir

SP19XX:

--- Zitat von: Odysseus am  9. Dez 2015, 23:57 ---While I think that your reasoning is sound, and you propose some interesting things, I also believe that Legolas is already a pretty solid hero and I think this issue has an easier solution, namely by unlocking the ability at an earlier level. Saruman unlocks his power of speech at level 3 and he is more expensive than Legolas, so there is perhaps incentive for that. Switch around Hawk Strike and Train Archers, for instance.

The Mount/Dismount might actually be interesting, but then Gamling kind of gets pooped on haha.

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Well the main idea of the Mount / Dismount was the idea of supporting Thranduil. In general the idea of the tank is to lure in enemies and heroes and stand against them for longer than other units while armies / hero killer / mass slayers support them.

With Thranduil having the role of tank and being Lorien's lone mounted hero meaning he's usually far ahead of the armies, and with Legolas being a hybrid Mass Slayer with a Hero Killing Aspect, it fits perfectly well for both of them to engage on the front lines together to cover eachother's weaknesses and improves the effectiveness of utilizing the Elk Riders, as they can have a hero supporting them.

To compensate the issue with Gamling perhaps he could recieve some nerfs overall while mounted to make up for it. But do however bear in mind this idea gives Legolas a mount at level 7, while Gamling can access it at any time so long as Rohan has a stables out. Not to mention Legolas and Gamling vary a lot in roles with Gamling being a unit supporter who can call out additional allies / supporting those he's near.

Edit: Note to mention at present most of the main Mass Slayers in other factions are in fact mounted or act as though they are. Eomer, Gandalf, Witch King, Smaug, etc.  Saruman, Gimli, Murin and Dwalin being the exceptions, however The Dwarves have no cavalry units at all except within the Iron Hills and Saruman has one of the most versatile set of roles in the game to make up for it.

Odysseus:
Seems I forgot about the elven sight ability. That one could be a pretty decent alternative as well. While Legolas does have a hero killer aspect, his main strength comes from his standard attack and his arrow wind ability if you ask me. Mounting could be interesting, I am indifferent to what gets changed around, apart from the Hawk Strike and Arrow Wind.

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