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Lothlórien Balance Discussion

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Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Please don't give Legolas a mount, it's the most boring ability ever. It would also be a balancing nightmare to have a mass slaying hero with that range and an ability that deals a lot of damage vs heroes on a horse so you can't outrun him... And if you nerf his damage on the horse, why get the horse at all? Also, just because the movies show him riding a horse sometimes doesn't mean he has to get the ability. By that logic pretty much every hero in the game could get a mount. And just the fact that some other heroes can mount doesn't mean Legolas has to have a mount as well.

That being said, I do agree that the training skill doesn't fit his mass slaying/hero killing role too well, although it is an iconic ability. But a leadership wouldn't solve this either. Having Gimli as a summon could work, but those kind of abilities are always a bit iffy to use and I generally don't like it (that's just personal preference though :P).

SP19XX:
Well as you said it's boring and indeed there are other options it's just that while an iconic ability from BFME it's just lack luster in it's current position because by the time it's obtained most Lorien/Mirkwood Archers are almost at the level cap or have reached it regardless.

The idea behind the Gimli suggestion was that he works in a slave system with his level 7 taunt ability as a passive, allowing Legolas to make full use of his arrow wind/hawk strike while being pressured for maximum damage.

The point is that skill most of the time feels wasted. If anyone else has a suggestion feel free to voice it though.

Hamanathnath:
I personally feel that Gimli shouldn't be a summonable from Legolas.  The main reason for that is that Gimli is already in 2 factions (Dwarves,  And Rohan as a summon.)  Assuming that Imladris keeps its Council of Elrond power, which if I remember correctly, can summon Gimli, then that's 3 factions already.  If he is added to Lothlorien as well, then every good faction besides Gondor/Arnor has Gimli in some way.   Isn't that too much? 

Nothing against Gimli, in fact he is one of my favorite characters, but in my opinion he shouldn't be in that many factions. 

Also, I feel that Legolas, as a very skilled archer, should have his Train Archers ability, despite his role as a hero.  But like I said a few posts ago, maybe it should have another effect on top of giving exp. 

SP19XX:
Well this might sound quite overwhelming but what if it instead targeted single battalions, and set them to max level, with a permanent ranged damage buff that doesn't stack. It could be minimal. It makes it a much more efficient skill in terms of use, but also means you have to pick wisely which battalion it's used on.

Or instead of a damage buff, a minor increase to their attack speed.

Melkor Bauglir:
Those sort of skills never really work the way they are intended to do: The problem is that, eventhough the cursor shows you only clicking on one bataillon, it still effects everyone in a small area (like say Mornamarths old level 1 spell). Therefore you just have to clump your entire army and this will affect more than just one bataillon.
Also: I know the ability is not the special, but it still is a rather nice spell and it shows Lorien's archer focus. I personally just like the idea of those XP-generating spells if they are not used too frequently (which means, one per faction is enough ;)), but considering the good factions should always try to keep their troops alive and generally have more options to do so, I think it's already a neat spell. I'm open for discussion about Legolas, but this is one of his signature abilities since Battle for Middle Earth 1 and I don't really need every spell in the game to a complex, graphical array of amazement. ;) It is a common misconception that more complex spells make the game(play) itself more complex, sometimes a straight-forward ability is just what does the job. :) E.g. leveling archers essentially gives them better stats why making it more complicated with such a unique buff? (Note that this shouldn't imply you were suggesting something needlessly complicated!)

Greetings
Melkor Bauglir

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