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Lothlórien Balance Discussion

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Hamanathnath:
But that is the problem.  Knife Fighter doesn't make Legolas strong enough to hold his ground.  He will still die very quickly to most other heroes.  I guess you can you it for the Armor bonus just to run away, but is obviously not what the ability is for.

Adrigabbro:
I do agree on that, it does not make Legolas as strong as it should be to survive.

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Most other heroes should beat him 1v1, even when he uses his knives. How are you supposed to kill him if it were the other way around? It's an ability to slay units surrounding him in melee combat, and the armor boost is nice when you have to run. With his incredible range Legolas shouldn't be caught by enemy heroes anyway.

Hawk Strike could use a buff, I agree to that, but I wouldn't raise the initial damage too much (I'd like to see a buff against flying units while we're at it... I'd like that for all sniping abilities btw, such as Istari Light or Faramir's special shot). I'd rather change the aoe pattern to something more consistent, the new pierce-enemies-thing is not nearly as intuitive as the classic Wizard Blast/Jump.

Odysseus:
Aye, well I also posted about this several times. I remember when in Edain 4.2, when Lothlorien was first released, the original Hawk Strike could bring down the average hero's health to less than 50% from full health. It was insane. I think I was the first to post about it too. Now, I got my wish, it was nerfed. However, it was not only nerfed, it was overhauled. I don't understand why? Legolas was a classic BFME I/II hero with a classic moveset, just like Gandalf. Why was this ability changed? Legolas' mass slaying capabilities lies in his amazing default attack and attack speed as well as his level 10 arrow wind ability, not a splitting Hawk Strike.

I would return the old Hawk Strike, and adjust its damage similarly to Gimli's axe throw and Aragorn's knife throw.

I think Legolas' Knife Fighter is fine. It's an emergency self-defense ability, just like with Tauriel.

Also, I agree with Elendil. All these snipe abilities should be improved somewhat. I think the bug with the not-scaling magic abilities will fix that though, no?

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Just to clarify: The bug that Skeeverboy mentioned only impacts the damage type MAGIC, nothing else. It caused the issue that the damage of Eomer's spear throw increased with each level (as intended), but the Wizard Blast did not, to name an example. Legolas Hawk Strike deals HERO_RANGED afaik.

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