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Angmar Ring Hero
The_Necromancer0:
This is just an idea that has gone through my brain and that I just couldn't shake off.
Idea 1
Now, I believe, and I think other people do, that it is logical that the Witch King would bring the Ring back to his master and not take it as his own. There is nothing wrong with having the ring hero being the Witch King but I had an idea. I was thinking that instead the ring would have to be brought back to the castle (like in vanilla) as a symbol from bringing it back to Sauron. In return this would boost all heroes, giving them new/reinforced abilities If I remember correctly there was a Tier 4 power like that in 3.8.1 where you would pick a fortress to become the "true" fortress of angmar. The boost would have to be just right so that it would compensate for the fact that you don't have to bring the ring to the front but yet still receive it's bonus.
If this is not possible due to game engine, I suggest that instead the ring be given to the Witch King but that he still technically brings it back to his master (omg that just gave me another idea) and then refer to the paragraph above.
Idea 2
Referring to the lore I exposed in Idea 1 and the last paragraph. I was thinking that the ring hero could also use the system of the veteran of Khazad-dûm. Once the ring given to the WK he set on a path to give it back to his master (on his fell beast?), after X minutes he returns with his full strength (optional: and a mighty host of Mordor). The ring would still drop from WK if he is killed to make it simpler but it would technically be in the hands of Sauron. This would just lead to WK being the ring hero but be more lore accurate and more unique (ring hero wize, cause the system is already in place for dwarves units).
Anyways those are two ideas that I have for the Angmar Ring Hero, might be impossible, migth be that the team has a better idea. I'm just putting it here cause it's been spinning in my head for a week. If people like that idea we can dvelop together the various effects of both ideas. I just hope that either one of those ideas is possible.
Can't wait to hear from you guys!! xD
™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™:
I like these ideas :D.
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I just thought of another one :P. (a 3rd idea )
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Maybe if the Witchking gives the ring to Sauron, something similar to the southern fiefdoms' system happens?
Maybe since Sauron is so much more powerful now, every 1-3 minutes he sends 2 battalions of orc warriors, and a troll that has all its upgrades (though, you still need buy its weapon)
To aid Angmar in their conquests.
This is to show Sauron trying to speed up the downfall of arnor since he's much more powerful (Or rohan,gondor any good factions :P.
The_Necromancer0:
In this case it would have to be a lot of Orcs or elite units in general like cirith ungol orcs, since they cost no command points and are pretty strong. It's a great idea but my opinion is that it defeats the purpose of having a Ring Hero since it is nothing more then units, but good idea nonehteless.
DrHouse93:
I actually like the first idea better. It doesn't make sense for me that even if the Witch-king has brought the Ring to his master, when killed he would drop it. How many One Rings do exist? xD
On the other hand, the first idea is more appropriate to me, because a skilled general as the Witch-king would not risk the defeat at any cost, even if it is the One Ring. In his might and arrogance he would simply keep it safe in the fortress until his enemies are destroyed, and of course receiving benefits from his master through the Ring (kinda an help from the distance xD), then he can return the Ring to his master and estabilish his reign of terror
So, I definitely prefer the first idea^^
Garlodur:
I also had the feeling that the Witch-King wielding the Ring is not very logical as the Nazgul are subjected to Sauron through each of the Nine Rings that were forged for Men.
In this line of thought none of the Nazgul could possibly think of using the Ring for himself.
Therefore, I like the first idea better, although it plays with the game element of the ring remaining inside a possibly heavily fortified camp/fortress. This is unfair in comparison to other factions.
A way to solve this would indeed giving the One Ring to the Witch-King, after which he will fulfill a carrier role. After all, would the Witch-King part with the Ring once he holds it? Would he flee the land to deliver it to Sauron, with the high possibility of Angmar falling (prematurely) to the might of the descendants of Númenor?
No.
The Witch-King would carry the Ring not as being its master but much more like Frodo (and Sam briefly) held it. Frodo was able to dominate Gollum because he wielded the Ring, and Sam felt his own power grow when entering the Cirith Ungol tower.
Keeping this difference in mind between carrying and wielding the Ring, I would propose that the Witch-King uses the Ring temporarily to reach victory faster.
In-game he gets a second palantír that contains certain 'leaderschip' abilities or buffs towards particular units. This would be comparable to the types of leaderships Imrahil or Araphant has.
One buff would concern all friendly heroes on the map, one all elite units (Men of Carn Dûm), one all standard units (orcs, thralls and hillmen), and one all buildings and siege machines (invulnerability because frozen, increased building speed, decreased building costs).
I haven't yet thought about the cost of these abilities. It would be too easy to decrease the Witch-King's damage and armour because it cannot be explained by canon-lore. However, I do feel that he should in some way become restless over time because he feels that he's withholding the Ring from its true master.
What do you guys think about this?
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