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Fredius:
No. The armor those orcs are wearing are forged in Dol Guldur. Therefore it doesnt matter who wears that armor, be it orc from Gundabad or Orc from Mordor, that is Dol Guldurs armor.

Its Castellans btw, Castillians are a former spanish kingdom in the middle ages :P.

Hamanathnath:

--- Zitat von: The Witch-King of Angmar am 17. Feb 2016, 19:13 ---you are right , i agree with this ,  dul guldor and all the spider ,castillians(right word?) and khamul  must stay in mordor but i think they must change the design of the soldiers to a new one , and get the current design to MM to join The defiler .

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Im completely fine with the design of the Dol Guldur orcs right now.  I don't exactly get why you want them to change to something different.  I think it would be cool to have the Dol Guldur orcs be a summon for the Defiler or maybe a Spellbook power for the MM, but they shouldn't be the basic infantry for MM. 

The Witch-King of Angmar:

--- Zitat von: Fredius am 17. Feb 2016, 19:28 ---
Its Castellans btw, Castillians are a former spanish kingdom in the middle ages :P.

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lol

--- Zitat von: Hamanathnath am 17. Feb 2016, 19:29 ---
Im completely fine with the design of the Dol Guldur orcs right now.  I don't exactly get why you want them to change to something different.  I think it would be cool to have the Dol Guldur orcs be a summon for the Defiler or maybe a Spellbook power for the MM, but they shouldn't be the basic infantry for MM. 

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yea maybe not a basic infantry , it should be a spellbook or something like that , the problem is when i play as Mordor i see them not fitting in my army , some troops from BotFA movie are joining morgul orcs , Grond , fellBeasts etc..., its really weird .

Fine:
Mordor has so many different types of orcs (and other units) to offer. If you are uncomfortable with the Dol Guldur orcs, simply don't use them.

Melkor Bauglir:

--- Zitat ---Plus, Azog won't even be in the game.
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Just to clear this point up: Yes, the Defiler is of course basically the Hobbit Azog. However, due to him not being alive during the Hobbit storyline, Edain has decided to only name him the Defiler, so he is neither really Azog nor the leader of the Misty Mountains (why Tolkien, why, do both Minas Morgul and Misty Mountains have the abbreviation "MM" in english? [uglybunti]). The Defiler is simply Misty Mountains hero killer and kept with Gundabad's design (meaning the orc design from the first Hobbit movie). It's kind of a mess because it makes for a big confusion concerning DG and Misty Mountains, but that's the Edain canon.
So basically, the orc army in BotFA uses Mordor's DG design (eventhough those are orcs from the Misty Mountains as Mordor / Sauron had no influence over the BotFA), Bolg is the leader of the orcs being the uniter during the BotFA, Azog is only included by his looks (and not his battle armor, because that would make him the commander he is not), but named "The Defiler" (making Bolg the only orc with a true name which is intentional) and this is basically the point where I lost track. xD
And I rightfully blame PJ for this eventhough I won't go in detail about this...

And the DG orcs shouldn't be at all included for the Misty Mountains because at no point in history DG really supported them. Therefore there isn't the slightest connection. Also I don't think this design is even fitting for the Misty Mountains because Edain has interpreted as a very wild faction without an organized / standardized army. Therefore this industrial armor is completely inept for the Misty Mountains.
Also, isn't that one of the greatest things about Mordor? That you actually control evil from all over Middle-Earth, for Mordor being the true hatchery of evil by the time of the WotR? Personally this is a reason why I like the DG-armor for Mordor because of it being different. And DG is one of the places you can actually expand creatively (see castellans) because it isn't really shown in the movie.


Greetings
Melkor Bauglir

PS: BTW, Wikipedia says "castellan" (or at least the german "Kastellan", the team used) is the overseer of an estate.

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