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Fredius:
First of all Elite, this should be discussed within the internal forums and not here, since the fans haven't played with the new Dwarves like we did and have no clue on what kinds of changes have been made :P.

Also let's not spoil too much information about the new features; everything is still WIP and can change at a later point.

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--- Zitat von: Fredius am  6. Mär 2016, 00:53 ---First of all Elite, this should be discussed within the internal forums and not here, since the fans haven't played with the new Dwarves like we did and have no clue on what kinds of changes have been made :P.

Also let's not spoil too much information about the new features; everything is still WIP and can change at a later point.

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I agree with Fredius.
This discussion belongs legitimately to the internal forum, as that is the right and just place which was established exactly to allow the ones who have access to the Beta to discuss freely and exchange opinions about it.

The public suggestion boards of the forum are generally based on official and released material, especially specific matters like balance (that requires a defined and general overview of things)  :)

Elite KryPtik:
I'm sorry, but where have I mentioned any details about the dwarf overhaul? This idea does not include anything from the new update, and I am quite sure that everybody is aware that the pricing of the units isn't going to change, because it doesn't need to.

The community at large can absolutely weigh in on this, because I'm not talking about any new changes, I am talking about an existing hero who is not being changed at all(except visually) with the new update.

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--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  6. Mär 2016, 01:15 ---This idea does not include anything from the new update, and I am quite sure that everybody is aware that the pricing of the units isn't going to change, because it doesn't need to.

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How can you be completely sure about this?
Sorry, but this seems to be more an opinion of yours about how things should/will be according to your idea of something needing or not to be changed.
It's a legitimate opinion, obviously, and you could be perfectly right, but the problem is that neither you nor me can know exactly how things will be in the new Beta.
And, the fact that a new Beta is going to arrive soon places us in an even more 'unsure position', similarly to how common users don't know exactly what they can expect from the new patch.

Therefore, I don't think at all that talking about these matters is something useless, but I rather am a bit concerned with the fact that expecting the other users to imagine and picture in their mind things that they don't have access to yet could be a bit problematic for the sake of the discussion.
It's a bit of a gamble, since balance, in particular, is intertwined with various different general mechanics.

The internal forum exactly provides the Beta Testers the opportunity to discuss among themselves and the Edain Team itself.

Elite KryPtik:
Fair enough. I'm pretty much certain that even with the new changes to dwarves they would still be overrun easily by spam factions, but if you want to move this over to the beta forums until the beta is public you can feel free.

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