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Glorfindel23:

--- Zitat ---yes it was an abandoned weapon, but the only reason it even apepared in themovie, imho, was that Frodo had to be impaled since he had been by the Orc-Chieftain in the book.

I doubt that the troll would normaly use a trident... why should he? Using the hammer he can deal farmore damage on a far bigger area... or with a tree he ripped out of the ground etc. the Trident really is a weapon I don't see fitting for a troll
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I agree I don't see the Trident as a weapon for a troll

Walküre:
But that trident gives also the sense of a very loose and run-down weapon, which is normally used for hunting. It seems to be fitting for the whole wild context of the faction of which trolls are a part. It is also an abandoned item, that the beast decides to pick up and wield as a normal weapon, to ensure that the maximum damage be dealt. And that trident is indeed a more threatening menace than a simple blade. It might be implemented as an ability, be it temporary or not, in order to differentiate mountainous trolls; together with the fact that it could represent a tribute to FOTR. And I believe that the first chapter of the trilogy does deserve the utmost amount of tributes in the game.

Julio229:
I think the trident could have a special purpose. Just like the hammer would be used to destroy masses of soldiers, the trident could be used by the troll to deal massive damage to particular units. That gives the troll a lot of purposes: He has his melee attack, his rock-throwing ability as a ranged weapon, the trunk as a low effectiveness weapon, and once Bolg has organized the armies of the Misty Mountains, they would get a chance to get the mace/hammer as a weapon to further improve their mass-slaying abilities, and the trident as a way to have a more damage dealing weapon that hits few (or only one) targets.

It would also reflect that aspect of the wild that DieWälkure said, it is really fitting that the Trolls of the MM would pick up whatever was at their disposal as a quick way to deal a lot of damage, the trident wasn't intended as a combat weapon, but they will use it in that way, because I think that's one of the main appeals of the Misty Mountains: going from a disorganized rabble that uses scavenged weapons but aren't quite a real army yet, to become a fully organized army under the command of Bolg that makes the most of the weapons and armor they took from others, and becoming a dreadful army that still uses what they happen to find, being totally different from the other armies of Middle-Earth.

Walküre:
Exactly. I back your points, Julio. I would also add that using the trident as a moderate hero-killer feature could be interesting. A special ability of cavern trolls. Yes, they are cavern trolls; I apologise, as I referred to the other kind in my previous post. I was talking about cavern trolls, of course :)

I would find such property really interesting. As Aragorn says, that trident would have slain and passed through a boar. At least, this is what he says in the Italian version ;)

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 25. Jun 2017, 00:10 ---I would find such property really interesting. As Aragorn says, that trident would have slain and passed through a boar. At least, this is what he says in the Italian version ;)

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I can confirm DieWalküre the Italian translation is loyal to the original script  :). Anyway I like the idea. In general we cannot consider a cavern troll as a creature fond to particular weapon as men, elves, dwarves could be :). They consider it more like a temporary tool. I don't see any bad if a troll can switch between different so to say "raw" temporary weapons, especially if we are talking about MM. And of course the damage shouldn't be so high :  they pick up  random objects but they are not well trained creatures. The trident could be a good way to deal good damage against heroes (as a parallelism with the sword of the mountain trolls of Mordor, which are instead well trained and deal very high damage).

if you look at the sequence, you can notice that the troll try to whip legolas using its own chain, as second example :D.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lfOnQD8Qif4

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