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Julio229:
I agree with DieWälkure, this wouldn't be a regular summon, it would have special elite units, and I agree about the Armored Trolls. In my opinion, it would differentiate itself from the other summoning tier 4 powers thanks to having better units than what the regular faction has, and they would be quite unique because of their way of spawning. I think it would also represent the moment when Misty Mountains stop being a disjointed faction and become the unified army that marched against Erebor, their new elite units reflecting that.

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: Julio229 am 12. Okt 2016, 22:31 ---I think it would also represent the moment when Misty Mountains stop being a disjointed faction and become the unified army that marched against Erebor, their new elite units reflecting that.

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A very significant aspect this is. A momentary feature which might give that sense and enable us to explore a bit the potential of the Defiler as a commander (the theme characterising him in BOTFA, while having had the role of a hunter in AUJ and DOS). All of this could be achieved via clever mechanics, without altering the main conceptual foundations the Edain Team wanted this faction to be endowed with (speed, aggressiveness, a loose approach and unpredictability).

I really appreciate the way the discussion is being led: we are addressing very pivotal issues, referred to a defined context and so connected with each other. May the debate continue fruitfully  ;)

Ealendril der Dunkle:

--- Zitat ---I think it would also represent the moment when Misty Mountains stop being a disjointed faction and become the unified army that marched against Erebor, their new elite units reflecting that.
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That's actually what Bolg does with his recruitment and his abilities (as already presented). Gundabad is a subfaction of the Misty Mountains, so we won't include them in a summon or something similar.
Tier 4 spells are the Dragon Strike and the Balrog.

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--- Zitat von: Ealendril am 13. Okt 2016, 11:19 ---Tier 4 spells are the Dragon Strike and the Balrog.

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Don't you think there is an issue of differentiation and uniqueness regarding this choice?

I believe Smaug should be made the only major dragon to focus on in the faction, for the series of reasons we have discussed so far (his fundamental role in the Hobbit trilogy, the fact of being a Ring hero, his potential as an exceptional hero and so on). Having an ultimate spell based on that same dragon-motive would not be very much unique, in my opinion. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, hasn't the Dragon Strike basically remained the same since BFME2? I totally understand why the summoning of the Balrog has the absolute right to be kept in the spellbook (it's an iconic legacy from BFME1), but, for the other 4-tier spell, I guess we could come up with a new concept.

Another aspect. We were previously debating about the nature of Smaug's leadership in the faction's structure. Since the direct allegiance/connection between creatures as Winged Dragons and the Goblins themselves can sometimes be problematical, wouldn't an ultimate Goblins-based spell resolve those problematics and balance all the different souls of the Misty Mountains? That is, finding a balance among Orcs, Dragons, the Balrog and the other monsters; alongside the scope for additional innovative solutions.

TheDarkOne:
Sounds cool. You could develop that idea of levelling him up by collecting treassure or whatever. This could eventually inspire ET to apply this. 8-|

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