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Julio229:
Edain Team said they didn't like the Movies' final Bolg design, that's why they used the original concept that ended being the Jailor on Dol Guldur. I think Yazneg has a bigger part on the first film than that wolf on the book, and in the Edain Mod, like Fredius said, he isn't Yazneg, he just has his design.

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: Fredius am 18. Okt 2016, 20:24 ---Well it actually is unique in the kind of damage this power does. Eventhough Smaug can shoot fireballs and even a fire storm in the form of a winged dragon, he is not able to fly over a certain area and set it ablaze like the Dragon Strike power does. There is no other power in the mod that can do this, so I do regard it as unique.

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One could reply by saying that Smaug himself is already supposed to be the fire-breathing deadly machine. A regular or quasi-regular hero who can dispose of destructive powers while being a stable presence, and an even more destructive 4-tier spell yet momentary. Which one of the two is more effective than the other, strategy-wise, in the end?  :P

Damage is obviously something I didn't consider as a uniqueness aspect. I'm more concerned about the fact that Smaug ought to be the apex of that dragon-motive (and not to contest this title with an ultimate spell) and the fact that Dragon Strike is another vanilla spell. Not that I have something against vanilla spells (the summoning of the Balrog is simply perfect), but having two vanilla spells as ultimate ones wouldn't do justice to the Edain Mod, in my personal opinion. The path of creating a new concept is indeed difficult, though I'm sure the Community has by now developed the proper determination to withstand challenging debates  8-)


--- Zitat von: Fredius am 18. Okt 2016, 20:24 ---
Now if Smaug were able to copy this power for himself, then I'd agree with you to replace the spell. I'd even suggest that Smaug could do this, because the strongest Dragon of the Third Age should cause more havoc than a regular dragon like the one from Dragon Strike :P. It would be awesome to have it as a level 10 power.

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I agree with you. Smaug will be a central, if not the most significant, character of the Misty Mountains. He should really be made the biggest and deadliest possible, regardless of the relative limits needed for balance-related reasons. I strongly support this extreme boldness, even if it goes against my interests: ensuring that evil and foul monsters are not too much in the spotlight  :D

kmogon:
I can only add that dragon strike ( If I remember good ) is not as practical. Dragon had to fly from one corner of map to point where spell was placed and it took to much time - battle situation just changed before he arrived.


--- Zitat von: Julio229 am 18. Okt 2016, 20:41 ---Edain Team said they didn't like the Movies' final Bolg design, that's why they used the original concept that ended being the Jailor on Dol Guldur. I think Yazneg has a bigger part on the first film than that wolf on the book, and in the Edain Mod, like Fredius said, he isn't Yazneg, he just has his design.

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I understand it but for me it's just creating a hero from random orc number 26048595.  This same is with defiler who is nobody special but we all know that he looks like azog and has skill which acorrding to his movie adaptation so he just has to be.

Julio229:
He isn't a random orc in my opinion, making a Hero of a random orc would be making one of the Morgul Orc banner carriers (who are based on some Orcs from the LOTR films) a  full-fledged Hero. Yazneg had some importance in the films, as he was the leader of the Hunters that were sent by The Defiler to kill Thorin and his Company. Making the Warg a Hero would be unique, but also too similar to Drauglin, like you said, while the concept that has been presented for Yazneg (when the Scouts were presented) is quite unique and has abilities that fit his concept. For that Warg, a lot of abilities would need to be designed without almost anything to base it from, and he would most likely become a generic Warg (It's been a long time since I last read The Hobbit, but I don't remember him having a lot of importance).

Walküre:
Just a curiosity of mine. I suppose the Misty Mountains' in-game soundtrack will be based on the Moria sequence tracks of LOTR and the relative Gundabad/Goblin-town themes of the Hobbit trilogy, right?

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