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Concerning Barricades and Nazgul Upgrades

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Hamanathnath:
Hello Everyone :)

With 4.3.1, Barricade was replaced with Sauron's Deadliest Servants, which allows the Nazgul to receive their upgrades.  This change was made because there were bugs that occurred when the Nazgul Upgrades were acquired when you used Influence of Sauron on the Citadel.

Now I see the point of why this change was made, however, it completely removed on of Mordor's Spellbook powers for something that they technically already had.  Also, I feel as if Sauron's Deadliest Servants is too good of a Spellbook power to not get early on, because it really helps out the Nazgul. 

So the suggestion is to put Barricade back into the Spellbook, and make the Nazgul upgrades available once Sauron reaches level 5.  I think this is a better way to implement the Nazgul Upgrades because, in my opinion, they are always a priority to get as soon as possible due to how useful they are.  It will also allow the Barricade Spellbook power to still be in the game.  I also think this will not make Nazgul Upgrades too easy to get because it is hard to get Sauron to level 5 very quickly, and you would still need to pay for the Upgrades.

I would love to hear feedback on this idea. :)

Greetings, Hamanathnath

Lord of Mordor:
The bugs were not the only reason. We also felt the Barricade was not necessarily something Mordor should have. It's a powerful defensive structure, which fits very well with Gondor and the Dwarves, but much less with Mordor. For offensive battlefield power, they still have the very good Shelob spell. I actually like that they have one less powerful early thing they can summon onto the battlefield and can make a different strategic choice to upgrade their heroes instead.

Odysseus:
+1 to LoM.
Nazgul do not specifically need their armour, even though it is very useful indeed. I think it could be interesting to split the Ring Hunter and armour upgrades, so that people have some extra incentive to go for the Fellbeasts and make the deadliest servants power harder to choose from in tier 2 with the other powers, but that's just me.

The_Necromancer0:
I'm okay with the barricade being deleted but however the issue that I have is more towards the fact that spell point need to be spent on getting the upgrade in addition to money. Spell points that can be critical in certain situations. So I was thinking that that either we follow Hamanathnath suggestions about the level 5. Or that it could be made into an active power which can be used to upgrade the Nazgul kind of like Power of Past Ages. This I believe would be more of an incentive for people to get it and provide more utility. My second idea would be that it provide somewhat of a boost to some aspect of the outposts such as defense or recruitement speed. Or maybe drop it to 2pp both to balance and to regain some spellbook symmetry.

Hamanathnath:

--- Zitat von: Lord of Mordor am 18. Apr 2016, 16:56 ---The bugs were not the only reason. We also felt the Barricade was not necessarily something Mordor should have. It's a powerful defensive structure, which fits very well with Gondor and the Dwarves, but much less with Mordor. For offensive battlefield power, they still have the very good Shelob spell. I actually like that they have one less powerful early thing they can summon onto the battlefield and can make a different strategic choice to upgrade their heroes instead.

--- Ende Zitat ---
Well it helps to know that the choice was not just to fix bugs.  The problem I have is though, is that Barricade was completely removed for something Mordor already had.  And also, now Influence of Sauron can't be used on the Citadel, which in my opinion, is kinda a waste because something useful could be put there.

I'm not saying that Barricade is the only thing that could come back.  I would just like to see something that could replace either the Citadel spot for Influence of Sauron, or the Spellbook spot Barricade left.  And I came up with an Idea that, at least in my opinion, solves that.  Because removing Barricade and replacing it with something Mordor already could do was a direct nerf to Mordor that isn't compensated at all.

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