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Chiska:
Currently the Witch-King is the ring hero for the angmar faction, but lore-wise I don't think it is very accurate. According to The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien :


--- Zitat ---"...laid upon them by Sauron, who still through their nine rings (which he held) had primary control of their wills . . ." — The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 246

--- Ende Zitat ---

Sauron holds complete dominance over each and every Nazgûl (including the Witch-King) and every action they carry out is ultimately the will of the Dark Lord himself. Therefore it is unpractical for the Witch-King to fall to the temptation of the One Ring as he doesn't really experience lust, desire and other human feelings. Also the Ring and Sauron are one, and technically speaking the Witch-King shares the mind of Sauron (sort of, not really but you get the idea) and for that reason the One would not try to tempt the Ringwraith because "it wants to get back to its master" and the easiest way to do that would to be just to allow the Witch-King to take it and return it to Barad-dûr. And even if the Witch-King somehow tried to take control of it Sauron would prevent it as he has complete control over him.
Also, Sauron doesn't seem to me like the type of guy who would allow his servant to use his beloved One Ring :p .

I realise that this has been a problem for quite a while in the Edain Mod, but the former issue was that there were no other Angmar heroes to really fit the description of being a ring hero and so they decided on the Witch-King.
But that was before the Edain Team gave us some of their custom heroes' background and lore.

In my opinion I think that a fallen dunédain general such as Mornamarth would gladly use the power of the Ring to his own benefit. You might be thinking...of all the Angmar Heroes, why Mornamarth?
The reason I have been contemplating this is because of a little something mentioned in his background story, given by the Edain Team:


--- Zitat ---"The Witch-king knows well that while Mornamarth is a great asset, he is not truly loyal to anyone and is best kept on a short leash. For his part, Mornamarth burns to rule Angmar himself one day, "

--- Ende Zitat ---

This referance strongly supports my statement in the sense that if Mornamarth was given the opportunity, he would not hesitate to betray the Witch-King in order to become the new ruler of Angmar.

While the Witch-King is primarily a mass slayer hero, Mornamarth is more of a supportive hero and would make a rather fine supportive Ring Hero (such as Boromir, and Galadriel). He already has many abilities with a risk vs reward aspect, perhaps the risk could be lowered or/and the reward increased upon picking up the One Ring?

I haven't really thought about a improved skillset but I really think he is a strong candidate for a new Angmar Ring Hero.

Hamanathnath:
Not a bad suggestion.  However, making Mornamarth the Ring Hero doesn't remove all the contradictions.  I agree that the Witch-King would most likely bring the ring to Sauron like he is supposed to instead of use it for himself, which I think is what the case is ring now.  But the problem with Mornamarth (or anyone else on Angmar for the matter) is why would the Witch King allow them to use the Ring? I strongly doubt he would let allow them to use it instead of taking it to Sauron himself. 

So either way, there will be contradictions.  I don't think your suggestion is bad, and wouldn't mind seeing something like that actually happen.  Just because of How Angmar is set up, it doesn't really make total sense for anyone to really be the Ring-Hero.  The Witch King is the prime candidate though because he already posses unnatural power.

At least, that is how I see it  :P

Chiska:
We could always assume that Mornamarth found the ring in secrecy,without the Witch-King's knowledge, and thus used it to overthrow his master and become the new ruler of Angmar. :D

Also I think it is more lore-friendly than the Witch-King being the Ring Hero :D.

But, as Haman said, there will always be contradictions in a game such as this, and ultimately theres only so much we can do about it.

Odysseus:
I made a point about this some time ago as well. I thought it would be interesting to give the ring hero mechanic to the outpost specific heroes, so Gulzar or Mornamarth. Now, I don't like Gulzar so I ultimately decided against it, but I think Mornamarth is a better suited candidate of the two, if we were to steer away from the WK.

Nonetheless, we don't have any official lore on all of the Angmar and ring stuff, so we'll have to refer to gameplay. And gameplay-wise, the Witch-King is the best candidate for that.

Darkayah:
hmmm...


--- Zitat ---And gameplay-wise, the Witch-King is the best candidate for that.
--- Ende Zitat ---

I agree with Odysseus. The witch-king is the best candidate for a ringhero...
it is definitely an interesting idea, because i believe there are many possibilities for some 'ring-mechanic/systems', but i am not sure if it fit to that fraktion or 'main-system' of this fraktion...

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