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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #75 am: 3. Aug 2017, 22:22 »
GANDALF: ''Saruman, there is no intention to spread animosity and ill-spirited emotions in this assembly. But we are not here to see ruin getting closer while we do nothing to hinder this course.

I don't really know how one could remain so adamant in his own convictions, when we need be resolute and strive to reach the goals we have indicated as our imperative mission for the very sake of Middle-earth. The Istari have reached the western shores of this continent with a paramount intent in mind, which is to set a careful watch over all lands of these insecure ways and to avoid the Evil being bold enough to make an attempt of returning in this world. And the fell forces of the World know indeed much and dispose of the most numerous means to grow unnoticed and unbeknownst to the most. It is via deception that Sauron hid in the vast forests of the East, waiting for centuries in a ruined stronghold forgotten by the knowledge of the common man. He took advantage of our weaknesses, which are apparent in this exact moment still. He was given the chance to acquire strength again. He is now to prepare for the war. He is the one who blows the winds of conflict against us.

We are not here to point the finger or to accuse someone in particular. We are not the ones who desire to impose a bellicose nature on our plans. It is the grave situation that has put this council in front of the plain state of things.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #76 am: 23. Aug 2017, 18:21 »
SARUMAN: ''And it is always you, Gandalf the Grey. This plain state of things that you often refer to is nothing more than speculations of yours. In that, as it is manifest to many in Middle-earth, you enjoy wandering around the ways of this world and to go in search of uncanny riddles throughout lands and hills, and peaks and unknown villages of rustic people, whose acquaintance you seem to cherish more than your prime tasks as an Istar of my order. And your quest is in most of the cases a vain one, as you seek for issues to discover and unearth, instead of focusing on solutions with which you may mend what is flawed or defective in some ways. And I honestly suspect that these actions are not lone and solitary; I don't believe in this lonesome casualness of happenings. For it might be that you long for forging situations of mess, if only to show up and appear, presenting yourself as the remedy of the daily troubles of this continent's inhabitants. In a wish and improper attempt to collide with my guidance and to go past the head of all wizards in this world. And it doesn't matter if yours is disruptive dynamism or if Radagast the Brown prefers to stay in his personal idleness. You are both flouting whom you should instead follow and consult. This is the plain state of things: very few in this council deem me a wise leader and my rule is thus questioned. A consequence of many years of scheming in the shadows and working for the weakening of my position.

Gandalf, open your eyes and widen your sight! The guarding of this world cannot be entrusted to heated feelings or hurrying of any sort. It doesn't work this way. Defence is built on the founding premises that the defender boasts all the means to obliterate the foe when the latter wishes to come out of his lair. Hence, what matters is attention and a constant and patient studying of the manners of the enemies, unto the hour of attack and victory. And no possible menace is to pose such a sudden and worrying threat; I may concede that the Dark Lord may have come back from his long exile among the shadows of Middle-earth, but the One Ring is now gone for good. The tale of all the Rings of Power that we previously recalled is a lost one, which I don't wish to make actual again, as you accuse me. You are making it actual, via the continuous blabbering of sham perils and disastrous outcomes. The artefact is instead gone, carried by river to the ending of the mortal soil. Thus the answer: the Dark Lord may still remain wherever he wants to, because time, the sheer passing of time, won't give him back his past prowess.

Whilst the grand reign of Gondor strives to contain the ambitions of old rivals, you would like to divert the general effort of our forces from the real and problematical challenges, towards your own theories which you are much fond of, according to which Sauron is to prepare a general assault on the Free People in short time. It's because you don't have a clear grip of the world, lesser fellow. You just long for unrest to befall, so that what you theorised may be proved right and wise. And about your wisdom I seriously doubt.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #77 am: 25. Aug 2017, 19:09 »
GALADRIEL: ''Studying the manners of the enemies? How long for, White Wizard? How long should one indulge in patient studying and observing? Years, centuries or even millennia? Or the amount of time that is necessary to you to actually become one of the foes yourself?

The line you have elected can only bode very ill for us all. This I tell you in plain openness and sincerity. It is facts that speak for themselves and hand to us the exact representation of what is happening as we are conversing with each other. A leader is entrusted with the duty to guide and to solve issues that might be on his way; this means that preventing troubles from worsening is also very wise in equal terms, because the good guide knows when peril is getting closer and how it is best to combat it for the good. And the decent leader knows well his foes, it is true, but never via unproductive observation or obsession for the arts of whom he is supposed to defeat. He already knows his opponent, as history has shown his real colours and the extent of the threat he could pose for the world. A wise leader also takes time to travel and visit whom he rules over and leads; and, should not be possible due to numerous factors, he at least cares about the existence of the most common of the people, sending envoys to make them aware of himself and gathering news from the very lands of Middle-earth. The good ruler shows the foremost apprehension, when such a revenant foe decides to return and acquire strength for a new war. This the good leader does.

This you should have done, chief of this assembly, instead of locking our fates into your black tower and sending your servants in mission at the ends of my realm.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #78 am: 15. Sep 2017, 18:26 »
ELROND: ''Fellows, authoritative companions of mine, exchanging harsh words won't avail the mission we have been appointed to. I perceive that the tone of our discussing may have got too far, away from our intent and imperative scope. We have not been gathered here to bandy words with one another. I beg you; none of whom we desire to aid would ever like the sight of this sort of contest. Fierce battle ought to be spared and saved for the enemies only. And I'm certain that we all do what we may do, to stick to the path we have set ourselves on. A path difficult to journey through, I concede, yet never should the aleatory case and fate lead us astray. Faltering is a luxury we don't dispose of, at the moment. A grim moment. Times that require unity and a very firm mind. I thus ask that all solutions be forwarded in the clearest of the manners. Then, we are to judge what fits best the needs of this assembly, in hopes that the definitive decision will be fruit of thoughtful debate.

Saruman, I infer and dare say that there are very few doubts regarding the nature of our common enemy. The Enemy, as one should better tell. And I may confirm and state again the words of the Lady and Gandalf, because I was there myself, at the slopes of the Volcano, holding high the banners and flags of the lost might of the Noldor; serving Gil-galad the Great, last of the series of legendary kings. And I beheld the terrible spectacle when the hope of Men was near destruction and when the gallant Elven monarch found atrocious death by the direct act of the Dark Lord. Alas, the Evil was given the disgraceful opportunity to linger still in this world. His phantom fled to the edges of the known territories of this continent, too weak to manifest himself in physical shape. We now have plain evidence of his return. Yes, he came back from the oblivion of his erstwhile demise, for this is the nature of any malicious force, if the illness has not been completely cured and purged. We have also been informed of his movements about the ruined stronghold of Dul Guldur. All may see what has been of the one-time green and luxuriant forests of Mirkwood. I also understand why the Woodland King opted to leave his past residence and move his people to the northernmost borders of the woods; it means that shadow had already been lurking in there. We have not noticed that, unfortunately. We must thus determine the course of our own actions. Although it's true that no menacing threat has been posed against us, allowing Sauron to amass his minions without fighting back could be a blunder we are surely to regret.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #79 am: 24. Sep 2017, 16:49 »
SARUMAN: ''Who in the broad world would ever ignore the approaching flames of war? I know no leader or noble lord that has ever turned his back in front of an evident menace being assembled at his borders. And I won't equally underestimate naught of a certain note, be it related to war or minor troubles in the shires of common lands. Yet, may I tell this to this council which dares question my capability of tackling the issues I was appointed to solve and fix: I see no menace. I see no enemy constructing such terrible armies whilst lurking in the midst of the darkness of a gloomy wood. The extent at which you are considering things has been clouding your judgement. What you depict is nothing more than a facade, if I may name it this way. A facade made of the phantoms and spirits you have conjured in your mind. Because, conceding the return of the Dark Lord, he will never be given another chance to acquire his might. He simply cannot. I studied the lore of the ancient Rings of Power more thoroughly than you might think. The answer to the riddle is simpler than many other mysteries that the world keeps secret from the general knowledge. Sauron's own entity is intertwined deeply with the state of his Ruling Ring. Even if Men faltered in front of the chasm of Mount Doom, and even if the One was given the possibility to pass unspoilt the eras ahead, Sauron will never have the tenure of his artefact once again. The One Ring has fallen in the meanders of the River, carried away from the impetuous waters unto the sea. None may recover it from the abyss of the blue. None may try what is impossible to do. Sauron has no force left in him; or, should he prepare himself for a conflict of any sort, the threat would be washed away and vanquished by our might, being us resolute and stout. Let him choose hiding and deceptive snares; they will be of no avail. My grip is ever-firm and only woes for our side voices of dissension could bring.

The One may not be retrieved, unless Arda is shattered and broken from its very foundations of fire and stone.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #80 am: 5. Okt 2017, 18:49 »
GANDALF: ''My erstwhile foray in the dungeons of Dol Guldur was not the first enquiry of mine in that stronghold, Saruman. I know and deeply understand what and, in particular, whom we are due to face. Sauron has been scheming for very long time, too much, to just be satisfied with establishing himself in Mirkwood and awaiting there without any plan or goal whatsoever. It's not how it fares. It's not how he is. It's not how the Evil would behave. We have already discussed the horrendous series of crimes and felonies of the enemy we could at any moment fight. We are well aware of the fact that the Dark Lord must not be conceded anything. No peace, treaty, truce or even precious time. History just speaks for itself and we should never ignore its gold-worthy teachings, methinks. We are surely to pay a terrible toll for our blunders, should we opt to turn our back to such appalling evidences. And from my part, I have done anything in my possibilities, everything in my power, to strive and unearth what needed be unearthed. And no mischievous pilgrim I am, White Wizard. In search of troubles I am not, for troubles I myself try to remedy and all of my hosts could speak in my favour. The loose vibe of journeying I fancy a lot. Yes, this is what I am; a journeyman and voyager, since the task of aiding those who are in need to wizards only was appointed. The lore of the world is immense and never-ending indeed; no epilogue or chapter, yet. The pages of Arda are only waiting to educate and tell their stories of multicoloured tone. And we have to learn and pay attention, I infer. This world has grown much chill, and the Istari have the daunting duty to kindle those hearts which from valour have detached; a beacon of hope for all free we must be. Furthermore, may I just add that guardians we are in equal manner. Guardians that watch over things, without preferring the lonesomeness of our own mastery and might. This is how I deem my work and presence in this world. Are there flaws and faults in that? This I cannot foretell, yet of one thing I am certain. My instinct suggests I be staunch in defence and patrolling the vast distances of Middle-earth. Roaming hither and thither entails fatigue, I do not deny, but accomplishing my objectives has never been for me shame or guilt.

I thus confide that good will be the outcome, whatever happens. I remit my trust in the hands of this authoritative council, whose rule I accept and respect.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #81 am: 11. Okt 2017, 16:46 »
ELROND: ''A just solution ought to be found, and reasonable in equal manner. Our erstwhile exchange has been lively and one could not deny the plainness of facts before us. The prime purpose of the meeting is setting out with the proper measures to cope with whatever challenges we get to encounter in our path. Crude words of all sorts don't help our proposition; yet, thorough discussions are something we are in dire need of, in order to dispel the fog of uncertainty which, for too much time, has been binding our hands. We must act and choose which way will suit our interests better. I myself have learnt how much wide and entangled the multifaceted reality of Arda could be; very much intricate and full of lost knowledge that has seldom been passed on to next generations. But the honourable members of this council may rejoice at the fact that we are not at all ignorant about the befallen times of this world. We are not, I assure. My scholars have long and broadly gone through the obscure traits of common history; I know equally. As I told you, I was there when Elves and Men marched together for the noblest of the causes. I was there, when the mighty host of the West had landed on the sunk lands; I beheld its legendary commanders and the ancient valour of the good kind. And the previous examination that had the Rings of Power as main subject was indubitably useful for multiple scopes. We do have, at the present moment, the fundamental scope for electing the strategy we are to make ours.

I thus take the liberty to ask that a final answer be given. The judgement, by which our deliberation will be informed, belongs to the chief of this assembly. We leave the right and authority to sentence in his wise government, for a leader is ever-burdened by the heavy weight and toil of decreeing what should be done. It is solely up to the head, on whom success or failure depend. Pray, may the outcome be of avail for us all. We are still invoked and summoned to be loyal to our duties. Not only do the Wise of the world sit in silence and converse with each other only, but we also strive with enduring conviction that the Evil will be finally given what it truly deserves. Whether it be through the violence of warfare or through the patience of patrolling, the flood is to be kept at bay. We all sense that illness could soon be spreading here and there, marring what of good has been hitherto built, spoiling the lovely deeds of whom just enjoys the everyday labour of life and endangering again the whole entirety of our multicoloured territories.

Saruman, what is it that you deem wise and proper for the case? What are you to decide?''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #82 am: 19. Okt 2017, 17:29 »
SARUMAN: ''Well, Lord of this merry valley, I fear this council approaches to its end. Naturally, albeit opposing views and deliberations concerning what ought to be done for the matter which is the subject of our parlaying, I shall take a definitive decision, for time should not be wasted in futile quarrelling of any sort; this is only to weaken the bonds existing among us and hamper the mission we are supposed to accomplish.

My line is plain to grasp and see: no army or expeditionary force will be given consent to attack the eerie fortress of Mirkwood. We don't dispose of enough evidences and I believe that patience will be rewarded, in that the enemy is to be forced to unveil his schemes at the very late hour. Then, only then, are we to close this chapter. Should the Enemy be ready for an assault of any kind, we will be resolute and firm in the response. Our might is to be mobilised and we shall counter-attack against all who seek to harm or destroy the equilibrium we have built through much toil and tinkering of ours. I deem useless and counter-productive all plans that entail a sudden strike, now, for there is no risk that the One Ring could be in the hands of Sauron once again. As I told you, regardless of the stubbornness of some of this assembly, the Ruling Ring was lost in the waters of the Anduin, carried away by the river unto the broad seas of the world. None will ever boast its possession and mankind may thus feel relieved. Bragging about sham threats is not to avail our mission. I feel like adopting a patient strategy. One should not hurry; we need the proper wit and sharp intelligence to go through problems. We cannot reveal ourselves in such a manner. The reason why I was obliged to object to similar propositions. We are meant to solve issues; we can't fuel the fire and spread disorder to the world. This is my last judgement.

Yet, I am not adamant in my choice and alien to the thoughts of the other members of this council. I decree that the borders of the southern woods of Mirkwood be guarded and patrolled. The Lady of Light, if she wishes to partake in the defence, could strengthen the control of the river and of those adjacent forests. Be it clear, we are to observe and watch over Dol Guldur. An adequate distance ought to be between us and our opponents. No clashes or incidents. We will conduct ourselves as guardians. From my part, my servants will be appointed to the surveillance of the eastern borders of Mirkwood, north of the Golden Wood, where the grand contest against Goblins took place in past times. Those at my orders will conduct inspections and report anything to me. I won't remain enclosed and locked in my tower. Idleness is not to guide my principles and ever-aware of the world's happenings I will be. Are you content? Are you content with this ultimate resolution? A proper compromise that suits our needs. I hope it will be just and enough, in order to placate doubts and dubious minds who keep on questioning my authority.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #83 am: 24. Okt 2017, 16:14 »
GALADRIEL: ''White Wizard, the ends of my realm are ever-secure. There is no reason to be wary of the Lady's defence. All these centuries, the gates of my woods have remained shut and sealed. We are the ones who patrolled thoroughly the adjacent paths and continue watching over the forest of Mirkwood, which is now a solitary testimony of how the Evil finds great pleasure in marring what is fair in this grim world of ours.

My valiant sentinels have never flouted the orders they were given. And they were bidden to guard the limits of our territories and the river which maintains us apart. The Enemy knows this very well, which is the reason of such suspicious silence on their shore. If anything of note is to befall, it will be not within my surveillance. Yet, I shall not cease what ought to be done. Not now. Not ever. We have always been on the alert since the return of the shadow under those poisoned leaves. And stout I equally was when Mithrandir elected the completion of the quest and unearthed the riddles hidden in the somber dungeons of Dol Guldur. We were aware, even at the hour of doubt. Even though authoritative voices refused to see the evidences provided by the very reality of things.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #84 am: 26. Okt 2017, 14:15 »
ELROND: ''With this last deliberation we shall therefore rest. Our defences will be strengthened all along the eastern flank and particular attention is to be given to the southern woods of Mirkwood, now infested by crawling foes of the most diverse sort. This is the line adopted by the assembly and so it is the very proposition of the Wise as a whole. In spite of divergences on the strategy to put forward, we have come to a satisfying conclusion and this is good news for anyone worried about the recent unfolding of the events, because decisions will be made and idleness won't be the compass of our doing. I thus expect that all of us shall do our best and utmost efforts to make the plan succeed. If we stand together, none may have the possibility to halt our advancing. Should our side begin to falter or wobble, that would be a flaw in a limpid glass, about to be widened and ultimately break a one-time firm surface. And crystalline we must be, as we are resolute in our intent. May this be clear and plain, I hope. The council will nonetheless remain well ready and apt for changing opinion, were the situation to worsen in grave manners. I want this assembly to be strong-willed and prepared to face the worst. We know well that the Evil does not concede truce nor piety of any kind; and even if there is a long pause of stillness, that is simply quietness before the forthcoming storm, and precious time that our enemies make usage of to regain the lost prowess. We must maintain our guard high. We just must, for the sake of whom we have sworn to defend.

I declare the second meeting of the White Council concluded. Go in peace and may well-boding fate be beside our cause.''

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Re: The White Council
« Antwort #85 am: 11. Nov 2017, 01:13 »
The council has almost come to its conclusion. The majority of its members have decreed to stick to the line of its chief. Saruman has in fact preferred a moderate strategy, comprising increased surveillance of the borders surrounding the southern woods of Mirkwood, although he deems any military operation a too risky of a move. Thus, sentinels were ordered to linger and keep a careful watch over those perilous ways. Yet, in no way was such plan meant to face the threat in meaningful manners; the White Wizard had already dismissed the eventuality of Sauron getting his hands on his One Ring once again. The artefact he longs for with unceasing desire. The key for his return in the world. And Saruman secretly knew that the Ruling Ring had not been carried to the sea by the river. Therefore, focusing on patrolling was in his mind the best means via which he could observe his rival's doing. Because Sauron had clearly become for the Istar a rival to surpass, instead of an enemy whom the forces of Light just had to vanquish for the general sake. And this goes without saying that Gandalf was more and more doubtful about his superior fellow. Suspicion then began to grow and be pervasively rooted in the Grey Pilgrim's thoughts. A very recurrent of a grim sensation that could only bode ill. For it was simply manifest, at that time, how the interest of Saruman for the lore of the Rings of Power was not at all the one of a wiseman, as it should have been in truth.