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About that Lothlorien AI..

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ThePrussianMink:
Complaining that the AI is toogood is something that I've never really had to do, but the Lothlorien AI is just leagues better than the other factions. If you're playing on a relatively large map, they'll just build Mirkwood outposts and Entmoots all over the place and start swarming the map! My friends and I like battling vs some random hard AIs, but if that random ends up rolling Lothlorien we have no chance! :o Even the medium Lothlorien seems to outperform most hard AIs.

Personally I'd love to see the Lothlorien AI nerfed in some way, but I'm guessing that's not a priority even if you wanted to do it. So I guess I'm asking for some advice here. How do you guys deal with this unhinged AI? :p

The_Necromancer0:
Just a couple tips:
Fight late game, during early and mid game you have no chances of winning.
Level up your heroes as quickly as possible
Focus on getting upgrades rather than producing units even at the cost of map control
Fire Arrows
Learn the patterns, see on which side the AI prefers to attack you on
Only push for the enemy base once you have a mighty fully upgraded army

Odysseus:
Pretty much what Necro said. Once you realise the AI patterns, AI should be beatable.

ThePrussianMink:
It's a long time ago, but thanks for those answers! :)

We just started playing again and I'm still looking for more hints as we're still having huge problems with the Lothlorien AI.. We prefer playing against random, but we've barely ever won against Lothlorien, even on medium.. They just keep swarming everything with their units - heroes and Ents as well, so holding on inside the base isn't really an option.

When they get the Mirkwood Outpost (from whence they can of course produce units before its completion) they're basically unstoppable. Mirkwood soldiers appear to be stronger than most. Want to counter them with cavalry? Elk Rider's own them in seconds. I guess elves are supposed to be countered by harassing them, but that is extremely hard due to their swarming play style, especially in a 3v3 where all AIs are keeping up the pressure.

Right, so I'm mostly just expressing my frustration here.. :P But I'd seriously like to hear how you fight this AI!  xD

Curva:
Hey mate,

Played rohan vs lothlorien yday had the same frustration going when i saw those fking elk raiders so to start off the first thing u need to do vs lothlorien is denying outpost. If its not possible to counter elk raiders u need to get some swordsman or cannonmeat and a 2-3 units of archers u immiedietly focus fire on elk riders flank with cav at the same time and its gg. Gondor with their swordsman is especially good vs them they got heavy armored units and good archers than can competete with lothlorien and take down elk raiders along with great cav that can flank at crucial moment.

To sum it up it all comes down to taking their elk raiders down and then commanding deciding flank with cavalary for the rest of archers.

Also u can always be a dick pull his forces to the other side of map and then send 3-4 rams for the outpost :D thats what i call dickmove

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