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Several ideas for Gandalf

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Walküre:

--- Zitat von: dkbluewizard am 18. Dez 2016, 19:12 ---So going from a lore/book standpoint I agree with Dain, however, if we are going with a game standpoint then I agree with you, Diewalkure.

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Yes, I was referring to the very game. I know very well that Gandalf the White is greater than his grey counterpart and more akin to how a Maia in full powers would be in the Third Age, but, within the boundaries of the game, the Gandalf the White spell is meant to be a considerable boost for him (instead of a possibility to turn Gandalf into something completely different). The argument behind is similar to what we addressed in your thread: our proposal (Narya) in fact doesn't alter anything regarding the problematics dealt with here.

Lord Aytugar:
I think Gandalf should have more various forms. We see Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White in Gondor and his ring hero forms. Also Arnor has Gandalf and Dwarves can summon him too. Five Gandalf has almost same abilities and the other one is just temporary. Of course Edain looks after the balance but the abilities can change similarly like Dwarven Gandalf. For example while Gandalf the White has Wop,  Gandalf the Grey can have small earthqueke like dain said. Besides Istari Light don't fit for Gandalf the Grey. Generally i agree with dkbluewizard and dain but some points are different like if Arnor Gandalf has the Narya, Cirdan's ability will be confusing. However Glamdring should not be in Arnor. I think if there will be decision to change Gandalf, every body can give proposal.

dkbluewizard:
Hey Lord Aytugar,

I agree that Gandalf should have varying forms as which pertains to the canon. Arnor Gandalf should be different than Gandalf the Grey for Gondor. Gandalf the White should be better than either Gandalf forms.

Whatever the decision, we all must see Gandalf with Narya and later, Glamdring (with a bonus). Thorin Oakenshield should have a bonus too, I mean Glamdring and Orcist are arguably better than Narsil (I actually would say they are better given that they were forged by High Elves and Narsil was forged by Dwarfs. Noldor were better smiths.

So I feel +50% damage for both Orcrist and Glamdring is not too much to ask as both exceed Anduriel in being better blades. The +50% could be passive to Gandalf the Grey's Lightning Sword and Thorin Oakenshield's Exiled King ability.

Whatever occurs and whatever Ealendril decides, Gandalf must have the bonuses from both Narya and Glamdring, it is just canonical, balanced, and outright fair.

Slawek56703:
As much as l like Gandalf i think he shouldn't be avivable to use he's powers on horse while being still Grey . For me it's just doesn't fit that FOTR horse he used wouldn't be scared  of such powers Gandalf use . It should give him speed boost and be used in danger and fast crossing map but shouldn't imo allow him to use his powers. Only when he is White animals better understand him and especially Shadofax.I hope others share this some opinion on that .Also this make another small diffrence beetwen White and Grey forms.

Walküre:
I personally find the horse issue a too minimal of an issue to be dealt with, alongside binding Gandalf the Grey too strictly. I can't see the reason for that differentiation (which is very much binding).

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