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Second economy building option

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Secret Keeper:
Hello community,

Gondor has only one type of economy building for settlements from all factions. From my perspective, I feel that second option would be beneficial. To benefit from farms (cavalry discount),  you need to train horses even though you don't want to or need them in your current game. Let the fact of having no other options and strategies stay in vanilla. Edain is more interesting than that.

On the other hand, you have a market place building, which is only raaaarely built (understand 1 out of 100 games). So here comes the idea:

Market place as a settlement economy building - I propose 2 possibilities. Either completely move market place to settlements only. Or allow us to build a smaller versions of market places on settlements. Of course they will function as a typical economy building. No need to discuss abilities and discount type right now.

So, what do you think? Do you feel that another economy building would be interesting? Market place is just my early idea of changing basically unused building to something worthy of new tactics without the need of graphical changes (considering edain team lack of time and people right now).

Gandalf7000:
If the first one would be accepted I also propose to allow Marketplace to generate resources maintaining the upgrades possibilites (grand harvest, ore, taxes).

Halbarad:
I think Gondor already has many different economic buildings and doesn't need any new benefits (I would say in this point Rohan needs some more ideas). Also a market outside in the wild.. I don't think that this is that logical. But if it's the wish I would say for example something like an iron mine that makes the same benefit as the iron forge in the fortress could be a good idea.
So 3 mines and 3 forges together do 30 percent benefit.
That could also bring houses more in foreground. What do you think about it?
Hope everything is clear for you because I am german and wrote that on my mobile-phone ^^ If not then just ask me about it ;)

Secret Keeper:
Well, ever faction has 2 different economy buildings for castles/outpost. But gondor is the only one having just farm for outside of castle. Yes, they have 3 different ones but I think this is actually an advantage for other factions. Imladris has 4 different and angmar has 5 different economy buildings and nobody has problem with that.

I don't think having another benefit is wrong idea. After all, it comes with disadvantage. You have to build only this specific building to get discount. So you cant build signal fires or ithilien camps etc.

Market place is just a wild idea because it's so underused.

Halbarad:
Gondor has 5 different buildings that give you benefits (4 economy), but 4 of them are inside the fortress and only one is outside the fortress. Yes Angmar has 5 buildings with benefits, but at the End of the game they are not as good as Gondors buildings.
The thing is, that you can combine the benefits from Gondor MUCH better then the benefits from Angmars buildings: You always use buildings, so stoneworkers is always a useful benefit.
If you then build riders, you can use the farms to get them for much less money then normal and you can upgrade them for less money then normal. Same thing with your Tower Guards.

Buy playing with Angmar, you can use many benefits but you can't combine them really good: Your melting pot doesn't help you that much if you go on barrow wights or your orcs or your hillmen, which are better because of the farms outside.
And your mills doesn't benefits them either.

The marketplace is rarely build - but only in short games, after you play a while it is very useful to get him and buy its upgrades. They are that strong that it was better for balance to make them very expensive - thats why you don't see them that often. But to get back to the question if Gondor needs more benefits:

Gondor buildings with benefit:
farms
forge
normal house
stoneworker
statues (next Version you can build more of them, because they can also be build at the towers position)

Rohan got 2 buildings with benefits, Isengart got 3. I don't think that Gondor is the next one in line that should get a new one. That would be a real advantage for Gondor.

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