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A New way to discuss balance: Episode 1 Imladris Vs Isengard

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mycaelspear:
I disagree with the scout weapon switching being gotten later. It's been a while since I played Isengard but don't they not have access to that without Lurtz on the field? Considering that's a 1400 investment to get archer/swords that seems reasonable. If they get it for free by advancing to 2 when you normally get banners I'd instead propose to change which upgrade they get at 2 unless you have the appropriate hero and buy the upgrade. I believe scouts only get 2 upgrades archery with Lurtz on the field and it costs 300 or shields with Ugluk on the field which boosts their armor for 300. Why don't we just switch their upgrade at 2 to be shields or give them banner carrier at 2 like every other faction? The bow and shield upgrades are 300 per scout and still require 1400 heroes for a weak early game unit so I don't see the issue. The counter would be to attack Isen's eco early which is their weakness.

The_Necromancer0:
They can get it by simply leveling up which is the stem of the problem since a good player can get both his scout battalions level 2 by creeping two goblin-rank lairs.

sr_dark:
I saw your video and having used Imladris many times before, I believe one of the main issues is the amount of damage they take by arrows, that includes towers. This is a huge problem when you are trying to assault a base and end up losing most of your units in a minute since the battalions are (rightfully) so little. I've tried the same kind of assault with other factions and the results are not as devastating, this extends to battles also.

One of the main issues I saw in your video was precisely your units getting wrecked by archers, let alone the devastating combo with wargs.

I agree with the counter on pikes on Imladris, specially given 1 batallion is just one row of 'defense', and in the other factions they are 5 I believe, which becomes a big problem when you consider that the more Cav tramples, the more they slow down (and thus deal less and take more damage).

Nice vids!

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