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Ered Mithrin Overhaul

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Fredius:
I agree with this idea Fancy :). I myself noticed as well that Ered Mithrin's units are generally pretty weak, especially when they're supposed to give a lot of damage to Monster units, so I definetly welcome your proposed changes. I also agree that the Dragonslayers are in need of a change; I personally find most single units that aren't Monsters a bit problematic, because they require a lot of micro-ing to keep them alive. Having them as a banner carrier pretty much solves this problem imo. If the Gondor captain system doesn't work, then they could perhaps appear when the Zealots/Hunters/Grey Dwarves reach level 5, like with Isengard's captains.

Regarding the Grey Dwarves, they would certainly be fit to replace the Dragon Slayers if those were to become banner carriers. However, I would personally give them a different name, because Grey Dwarves sounds a bit generic imo :P. I don't have a name to suggest at the moment, but I will try thinking of one later (or someone else can come up with one).

Fancy Lad School:
Thanks for your reply, I used Grey Dwarfs just as term to describe the dwarfs in the fortress where as the unit is called "Grey Warriors" but I do agrre that the name isnt very sophisticated  :P.
I want to highlight a certain unyielding fashion about this units, these are guys who are eager to fight even if all odds are against them.
I have some name suggestions which could obviously be enhanced:
Grey Vanguard or just Dwarven Vanguard or simply only Vanguard
Survivors
Dwarven Berserkers
Axe Heerbann (from Rome Total War the franks had a similar unit called Axe Heerbann)

dkbluewizard:
Wow, a very intriguing and neat idea that I think is needed for balance. This is Lore worthy! But I also like how you individualized the pricing to help the defense of the building (like Imladris). I do feel Ered Mithrin needs a better update.

I agree with everything stated but question the Dragon Slayer captain upgrade. I like it, but I also liked how they filled the hero slot for this outpost. I guess since we can have only three and they would function like Erekenbrand, Elfhelm, and Grimbold--would they not get their own individual icons as well? I am just curious.

Overall, this is neat and I totally support it!

Fancy Lad School:
I have thought about giving them a similar purpose as the Rohan-captains but the thing is, that the Rohan-captains are gamewise a hero unit and one faction can only have 15 heroes buildable at once. Due to the reason that the dwarf faction does consist of literally 3 factions and their heroes, these 15 hero slots are already used up. So the above solutions as either upgraded banner bearers or that they can be combined with troops is rather a compromise.
And it gives a sense of uniquness because a similar system isnt used anywhere else

AulëTheSmith:
I like your ideas Fancy ;) I think they would make the subfaction more unique.
I have also two suggestion:

- if there are problems about combination of Dragonslayers with units could be a good thing to make them purchasable in place of banner carrier, just like Lake Town soldiers captains maybe with an higher cost ;). The Dragonslayers would make the troops fearless.

- To give a stronger characterisation, i would give to any type of unit of Ered Mithrin a passive ability named "Equipment of the Grey Mountains" (or something like that) :
 -Level 1: +10% attack, +20% armor, and +25% fire reistance against monster.
 -With forged blades attack bonus is increased to +20%.
 -With heavy armor, armor and fire resistance bonuses incresed to +40% and +50%.

- the armor of EM are crafted to fight against monster, especially dragons, that's why i put also the fire resistance ;) The values can be changed, of course. Also i agree to increase the cost of Zelotes from 200 to 250-300, in function of how many new abilites they could have with the overhaul  xD.

I like the new unit you crafted :) Fredius is right they deserve a more proper name :)

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