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The_Necromancer0

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[New Page Category] Maps
« am: 7. Sep 2017, 16:42 »
The idea behind this is to create a new set of pages for official edain maps with the goal of consolidating the wiki database and to kill time while we wait for the next update. What I have in mind is really something rather simple, the pages will be small and won't require a lot of time to construct. The main idea is to link to the Map of Maps that was created a while back bringing the mod closer to the books (if it hasn't been deleted).

The page structure is simple (from top to bottom):
Map Infobox (a new one made to fit the standard format of edain maps)
An enlarged picture with lairs indicated on the maps
A section containing info on the different lairs that can be found there (pre-defined using templates)
An "About the Map" section for any special detail on the map (no eastereggs)
A map navbox filled with all the map categories (2V2, 3V3, castle, camp, ect...)

It's simple and I'll get a prototype ready unless anybody has any urgent concerns about it.
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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #1 am: 7. Sep 2017, 19:48 »
It's good. i like it. Get started! :)

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #2 am: 9. Sep 2017, 00:24 »
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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #3 am: 9. Sep 2017, 00:27 »
A great idea! This will definetly be one of my favourite features of the wiki xD.

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #4 am: 9. Sep 2017, 11:01 »
The only thing I'm stuck on at the moment is how to label the different positions of the lairs on the map. They're too small, even on the big picture, to be seen.
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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #5 am: 9. Sep 2017, 11:42 »
A crazy idea how to label the creep camps: edit each map picture so that where there is a lair on the map you put small round images (like upgrades) of the movie (troll, goblin, warg etc.). This would sound as a lot of work but then it will be clearly visible.

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #6 am: 9. Sep 2017, 11:44 »
That would either be too small to be seen or to big to see anything else.
What about seperating the map in areas and just listing the creeps for each area?

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #7 am: 9. Sep 2017, 13:05 »
Great idea, Necro! I'll try to get something done as soon as I have time.


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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #8 am: 10. Sep 2017, 12:49 »
Those sound both like great suggestion so I wanna try them both. I first took a modified version of Gandalf's suggestion and instead of using symbols (cause I couldn't find any symbols) I used numbers instead. You can have a look here: http://edain.wikia.com/wiki/Ford_of_Isen_II#View_of_the_Map

The only dilemma I had was which of the three ways of numbering I thought of should using, which I'll try to explain the best I can below:

Numbering Way 1
The first way is to have the number follow one another on the map (as it is currently), this makes it easier to find the lairs since user immediately know where approximately to look. But would make the list under the map quite fragmented.

Numbering Way 2
The second way is to label the lairs by type, so warg lairs on this map will all be numbered one, wildmen lairs will all be numbered two, ect... This makes the list much shorter but can make the differentiating of lairs on the map complicated, since they can no longer be referred by individual numbers.

Numbering Way 3
The third way is to have the lairs be part of a range of numbers, so let's say all wildmen lair will be numbered 1-6,all warg lairs 7-10 and all cave troll lairs 11&12. This would make the bottom list more organized but would create a certain discontinuity in the way the map is numbered with number placement seeming to have no logic.

Once we've gathered a bit of feedback on this, I'll try FG's suggestion and split the map in 4 and label the lairs on that, I just need to think a bit more about it.

P.S. @FG15 Ill news is an ill guest but sadly Wikia (the company that hosts all the wikis) has discontinued the map system which means the Edain Companion census and the Map of Maps you created have both been lost... again.  :( I'm looking into alternative solution at the moment.
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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #9 am: 10. Sep 2017, 12:58 »
I think using unique colours for each lair type would be good. For example, the Goblin lairs get a grey colour, and you can put dots with that colour on the image of the map to indicate that the player can find Goblin lairs at those spots. In the description you can just write:

Grey = Goblin Lair
Red = Orc Lair
Orange = Wildmen Lair

That way players don't need to search for each specific number on the map, and you can keep the list short as well xD!

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #10 am: 10. Sep 2017, 16:58 »
I think Fredius' idea is best. Use a simple key to understand what each lair is.

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #11 am: 11. Sep 2017, 10:43 »
Something like this then?  (colors can be changed, just an example)

http://edain.wikia.com/wiki/Ford_of_Isen_II

I saved it as an image that appears under the map infobox:

Wildmen = orange
Wargs = brown
Trolls = maroon

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #12 am: 11. Sep 2017, 10:50 »
That wasn't really meant to be part of the page now, so if someone wants to move it out of the page to somewhere more fitting while we discuss the best option then feel free to

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #13 am: 11. Sep 2017, 13:43 »
I like the suggestion about colored dots as well. It will keep the list short and nice - something the Wiki has been streaming to for a long time.

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Re: [New Page Category] Maps
« Antwort #14 am: 13. Sep 2017, 09:40 »
Definitely agree with the way trond designed Fredius's suggestion. I'll get a high res version done
« Letzte Änderung: 13. Sep 2017, 11:20 von The_Necromancer0 »
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