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Tiberius Ogden:
He is the only elf in Middle-earth who calls himself a "king". That tells something about his nature.
Yes, he was interested in gems because belonged to his wife, but overall he was interested in them.
He wouldn't accept only random gem, but enchanted gem which not only looks great, but also helps him in his fight against common enemy ... and mainly it would be gift from Noldor high sorceress to Woodland king.
I can't imagine anything better for him from Galadriel. And I don't understand your comparison with Thorin's dragon sickness. One enchanted symbolical gem from informal elven queen doesn't make from him jewel collector. :)
Galadriel is mind reader and hero supporter, I can imagine that Galadriel's gem similar to gems of his wife in the Mountain, would not only support him magically, but also mentally (but of course only when we accept the PJ's story behind the gems). Something like sad reminiscence of hers ... if he can't have gems from the Mountain, than at least copy of them ... I think that Galadriel can be emphatic, cause she also lost the daughter, well not completely but definitely mentally after her tragic experience.

OakenShield224:
Ok I sort of see your point about the gem. I guess there are worse gifts that you could give to a king.
 

--- Zitat von: Tiberius Ogden am  9. Feb 2019, 18:15 ---He is the only elf in Middle-earth who calls himself a "king". That tells something about his nature.

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He calls himself a king because his dad was a king as well so now he rules. Elrond wasn't a king, mainly because there probably weren't enough Noldor to count as a kingdom (especially they were mostly leaving with some at Imladris, some at Mithlond and a few with Galadriel). Galadriel could've been a queen, but I guess she chose not to and didn't want to really rule over the people she moved to (even though she did in all but name). Plus she never had the title of monarch inherited from Amroth. As for Thranduil, he ruled over an entirely separate group of elves to the others, he had the largest elven population and had the largest territory. That and the fact that his father was king before him makes it entirely reasonable that he would have a kingdom.

Tiberius Ogden:

--- Zitat von: OakenShield224 am  9. Feb 2019, 18:42 ---I guess there are worse gifts that you could give to a king.

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I've just imagined encounter between Galadriel and Thranduil ... "So you're woodland king? It's amazing ... then I'll have something for you ... a wood! Winter is coming and will last long!" :P

"But we have enough wood in our woodland realm ..."  8-|

"...." :( "Then I have nothing for you" ... "But don't forget to love me and despair!"



--- Zitat von: OakenShield224 am  9. Feb 2019, 18:42 ---He calls himself a king because his dad was a king as well so now he rules. Elrond wasn't a king, mainly because there probably weren't enough Noldor to count as a kingdom (especially they were mostly leaving with some at Imladris, some at Mithlond and a few with Galadriel). Galadriel could've been a queen, but I guess she chose not to and didn't want to really rule over the people she moved to (even though she did in all but name). Plus she never had the title of monarch inherited from Amroth. As for Thranduil, he ruled over an entirely separate group of elves to the others, he had the largest elven population and had the largest territory. That and the fact that his father was king before him makes it entirely reasonable that he would have a kingdom.

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I know and funny thing is that I interpret it in different way. In my opinion Elrond and Galadriel just don't use titles only because they were wiser and much more modest than Thranduil.  xD

Walküre:
Thranduil's own legitimacy as monarch is not to be disputed. It's simply factual; it doesn't really add more substance to the topic.

As for Elrond and Galadriel, it's a quite interesting passage of the lore: both could aspire to the title and would have had a number of reasons for such claim. The Lady of Light was the only living member of the deceased Noldorin royal family, and so could have theoretically claimed kingship as her own prerogative; that, however, would have likely resulted in a very bold move and no Elf-maid had thitherto been crowned 'High Queen' of the Noldor in Middle-earth. Concerning Elrond, his lineage and own descent are just phenomenal: the noblest bloodline ever, comprised of the legacy of Elven kings, Edain lords and, on top of all, Melian the Maia. Furthermore, him having served Gil-galad for quite some time would have reinforced his possible vindication further. The two never dared become king or queen, though, mainly due to reverential respect towards past Elven sovereigns and the progressive dwindling of the Elves in the Third Age.
If you want, as I did with the Axe of Doriath, I can come up with a proper, coherent and lifelike RPG story behind the gem, as much canon-like as possible; by the way, the very gem is obviously not a random jewel, but rather a true regal gift for the Woodland King. A relic from the Undying Lands...

Tiberius Ogden:

--- Zitat von: Walküre am  9. Feb 2019, 19:07 ---I can come up with a proper, coherent and lifelike RPG story behind the gem, as much canon-like as possible; by the way, the very gem is obviously not a random jewel, but rather a true regal gift for the Woodland King. A relic from the Undying Lands...

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Of course! It would be nice. If we want to make gifts truly unique, then we need every gift to be justified. ;)

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