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Spellbook of Misty Mountains

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dkbluewizard2:
I agree that it is complicated and canonically controversial--but sadly ET had no other alternative. We probably could have avoided and saved ourselves a lot of lore and gaming headach if the Balrog was just implemented, but sadly ET couldn't do this due to his overpowering gaming presence.

I think what has been outlined is as good and close to the lore as we can get. Thank you for all the contribution Tolgayurdal and everyone who participated in the community. Job very well done!

Shadowlord:
The more I think about it, the more I am in agreement with @dkbluewizard2 view about Smaug. Smaug shouldn't be in the Spellbook at all. I don't even think there is a need to have such complicated mechanics behind how you can temporally recruit Smaug at all.

The vanilla Balrog is a fine spellbook power for the tier 4 section of the offensive tree, but I do think the tier 4 defensive power should be something else. Maybe use the Were-Worms from the Battle of the Five Armies film or something else entirely.

tolgayurdal:
Thanks for feedback. Smaug and Balrog are testing the balance of the faction upto vanilla ideas, i think. I tried to show their best functionality in mentioned mechanisms. I am not against other versatile usages at all, though i am not the one who will implement them. This was just a suggestion, you might offer yours as well.

Agreed about permanency of Smaug after @dkbluewizard2 as stated. But in general, we are away from Misty Mountains and waiting it as the last planned faction.

Best regards.

dkbluewizard2:
Let me clarify that I am okay with what is proposed. That is to say that I am okay with Smaug being part of the spell book. If we go with the hypothetical timeline that Edain Team is using for Smaug, then he would become the main leader of the faction and would be a central force.

Just as Gandalf canonically states in the books since Smaug would allow Sauron to recreate Angmar and cause havoc to the kingdoms of the North.

So Smaug being part of the spell book--I am okay with this. Just as long he is permanent am I content with the proposal.

Shadowlord:

--- Zitat von: dkbluewizard2 am 21. Apr 2020, 20:20 ---Let me clarify that I am okay with what is proposed. That is to say that I am okay with Smaug being part of the spell book. If we go with the hypothetical timeline that Edain Team is using for Smaug, then he would become the main leader of the faction and would be a central force.

Just as Gandalf canonically states in the books since Smaug would allow Sauron to recreate Angmar and cause havoc to the kingdoms of the North.

So Smaug being part of the spell book--I am okay with this. Just as long he is permanent am I content with the proposal.

--- Ende Zitat ---


I see what you mean now about being ok with what is proposed. The problem is, I don't understand what you mean being Smaug LEADING the faction. Since he's been shown to be acting independently from the other factions of Middle Earth. Sure he might join Sauron but it's not like Smaug would be leading Sauron's armies.

We never have an example of Smaug leading an army of goblins, gundabad orcs, or any armies in general. So if you could please clarify. What do you mean by Smaug leading the Misty Mountains faction according to the Edain team timeline? Why would Smaug want to lead them at all? Wouldn't he just be causing havoc on his own accord, and at best the Misty Mountains armies would just use the opportunity to attack their enemies while they're being subdued by a huge red dragon.

Also considering that Bolg is the canonical leader of the Misty Mountains in the lore.  In general why would the Edain team want Smaug to be the leader of the Misty Mountains faction?

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