About the Extended Edition, I heard that there will be a mini subplot about the Three Rings of Power
there's more of that, and it's pretty cool8-)
Overall you can see that she has little bit "hero-killer aspect" but I would say that "counter-scout" aspect :)
So I hope that everyone loves Hilda, because she is really badass. :P
Overall you can see that she has little bit "hero-killer aspect" but I would say that "counter-scout" aspect :)
So I hope that everyone loves Hilda, because she is really badass. :P
I see her more as a Unit Supporter; with her brave words and courage, she can awaken the flame of battle in the soldiers and civilians of Lake Town :)
there's actually no negative choice.Currently there are two negative choices (second and third choice) ;)
If Helda became any kind of hero (even if just a map candy) I would abandon all my feminist beliefs, and go on a crusade against such a poor character that gets more screen time than half the main characters in the movie!!!
Problem is that similar role already has Bard.
Currently there are two negative choices (second and third choice) ;)You mean "include it if there's no other choice" and "Include it as a map feature on some maps"?
I never really liked her character in the movie, indeed I had entirely forgotten about her until I saw this post. She seemed very tacked on and unnecessary, sorry to say :/Actually I agree with you!I just do not like the idea of having some random non canon woman from Lake.Town as Iron Hills scout!I just do not see it fitting!I think this is the first time I do not agree with and idea of Tienity about the Dwarves,but sill I prefer to have some non cannon Dwarf for scout than Bilbo orBianka!!Or eve Braga :D
Surely there must be some awesome dwarf buried in the lore of The Iron Hills that would be more suitable than some random (and non canonical) chick who fought in the battle of the 5 armies?
Hilda like Alfrid was quite unnecessaryWait, I really hate Alfrid as a completely annoying and useless character, but Hilda is completely different, she dealt with Alfrid. :P
Hilda like Alfrid was quite unnecessary and got too much screen time from what they deserve
Throw a flowerpot... It would be definitely cool and unique. 8-)
Agreed. All those additional Lake-town characters were not really needed in my opinion.
If the Edain team wants to change the scout hero for the Iron Hills, I think it should be a dwarf.
As I said a Dwarf will be more apropriate!And you have come up with an excellent idea my friend!I really like the concept of this Hero it sounds nice and even ifit is non canon I do not care sicne Murin and Drar ar too but are amazing Heroes! :)Agreed. All those additional Lake-town characters were not really needed in my opinion.
If the Edain team wants to change the scout hero for the Iron Hills, I think it should be a dwarf.
Maybe this guy from War in the North?http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Farin_(Champion) (http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Farin_(Champion))
Farin is no-canon charakter as Murin and Drar. But I like this guy in this game(As one of few things) and he fought in the Battle of the Five Armies(He said this in the game).
I have some ideas for his abilities:
Level 1: Toggle Weapon - Switches between axe and crossbow.
Level 1: Patrol: Farin sends two soldiers to guard the selected area. Dwarven patrol has a high range of vision and can reveal nearby hidden units.
Level 3: War-cry: For 10 seconds Farin deals +25% attack and +25% speed
Level 8: Explosive Bolt: Farin shots explosive bolt to the enemy. The enemy in the selected area will gets moderate damage.
What do you think about it? You like this character? :P
his Abbilities are fine with one exception I do not think the teamm will agree he to use Crossbow since Iorn Hills do not use them in Edain Mod(I think they should be the one with Crossbows rather than Ered Luin) but nothing can be done there,beside that everything is fine! :)
Maybe this guy from War in the North?
Agreee and agree :D But about Bilbo I don't think thay he is young is the problem,to me at least!The pproblem is that Bilbo never had any kind of dealings with Iron Hills Dwarves in any kind,he probably didn't even know about its!So I think it is neither logical norLore wise to use him as a scout for Iron Hills too! :)Maybe this guy from War in the North?
It seems that Hilda will be only as a map feature, so yes, I agree that dwarf is more suitable, in addition, he has nice design. I hope that graphic department of ET will have the same opinion. :D
But we have to say, that reason of whole debate is, that there is the same young Bilbo twice.
The pproblem is that Bilbo never had any kind of dealings with Iron Hills Dwarves in any kind,he probably didn't even know about its!So I think it is neither logical norLore wise to use him as a scout for Iron Hills too! :)Yes, it's the second argument.
Farin son of Norin was one of the Dwarves of Lonely Mountain.http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Farin_%28Champion%29
What if she were a non-playable hero (still part of your faction though), that wanders around the Lake-town outpost and guards it, like Círdan in the Elven Alliance Mod?
Wait a minute. Since Farin as we know him is a dwarf from Erebor, what's the point in implementing him for the Iron Hills?I think that he was born in the Iron Hills (because he fought in the Battle of the Five Armies in which only dwarves from Iron Hills were involved). But after the battle he became a dwarf of the Lonely Mountain (like Dain).
Come to think of it you may be right,but who knows! :)Wait a minute. Since Farin as we know him is a dwarf from Erebor, what's the point in implementing him for the Iron Hills?I think that he was born in the Iron Hills (because he fought in the Battle of the Five Armies in which only dwarves from Iron Hills were involved). But after the battle he became a dwarf of the Lonely Mountain (like Dain).
Wait a minute. Since Farin as we know him is a dwarf from Erebor, what's the point in implementing him for the Iron Hills?I think that he was born in the Iron Hills (because he fought in the Battle of the Five Armies in which only dwarves from Iron Hills were involved). But after the battle he became a dwarf of the Lonely Mountain (like Dain).
Still, that means that we're either going to implement him as he's known from WitN where he isn't an "Iron Hills Dwarf" any more, or we have to come up with a younger Version of Farin that fought in the Battle of the Five Armies. But at that point we might as well design our own dwarf and give him another name.
I like the general idea of implementing different "lores", but I don't see any direct gain here sorry...
hey may even implemend the Old Model of DainFits his model as a scout hero? :o
Who knows with Edain TEam everything is possible they may use at least some parts of him!I believe in their skills ! :)hey may even implemend the Old Model of DainFits his model as a scout hero? :o
Who knows with Edain TEam everything is possible they may use at least some parts of him!I believe in their skills ! :)I think that the old Dain's model is not suitable for scout. He looks too much like a leader. But maybe it would be possible to uses parts of old Dain's model for dwarves Class in CaH. ;)
Fits his model as a scout hero? :o
Two Dain's designs in Iron Hills and Dain for Erebor. Three models of Dain. xD
We talked with Tienety, that we have friends who have Middle-Earth sicknesses.
You have "Dain sickness" and DieWalkure has "Gladys sickness". :P
But don't worry, it's completely normal around Edain. :D
I still ahve that picture on my PC!It will be nice implemended as a Scout with few changes! :) And I agree that Dains Model will do great if sued to some degree in the Dwarven CaH not to waste the great Model! :)Who knows with Edain TEam everything is possible they may use at least some parts of him!I believe in their skills ! :)I think that the old Dain's model is not suitable for scout. He looks too much like a leader. But maybe it would be possible to uses parts of old Dain's model for dwarves Class in CaH. ;)
Maybe old Balin model with a hood would be fit for scout role. What do you think about this old model?
(http://x36.imgup.net/Balinff87.jpg)
Trumpets called men and elves to arms. Before long the dwarves could be seen ing up the valley at a great pace. They halted between the river and the eastern spur; but a few held on their way, and crossing the river drew he camp; and there they laid down their ons and held up their hands in sign of peace. Bard went out to meet them, and with him went Bilbo.
“We are sent from Dain son of Nain,” they said wheioned. “We are hastening to our kinsmen in the Mountain, since we learn that the kingdom of old is renewed. But who are you that sit in the plain as foes before defended walls?” This, of course, in the polite and rather old-fashioned language of such occasions, meant simply: “You have no business here. We are going on, so make way or we shall fight you!” They meant to push oween the Mountain and the loop of the river; for the narrow land there did not seem to be strongly guarded.
Bard, of course, refused to allow the dwarves to ght on to the Mountain. He was determio wait until the gold and silver had been brought out in exge for the Arkenstone; for he did not believe that this would be done, if ohe fortress was manned with se and warlike a pany. They had brought with them a great store of supplies; for the dwarves carry very heavy burdens, and nearly all of Dain’s folk, in spite of their rapid march, bore huge packs on their backs in addition to their ons. They would stand a siege for weeks, and by that time yet more dwarves might e, a more, for Thorin had maives. Also they would be able to reopen and guard some ate, so that the besiegers would have to encircle the whole mountain; and for that they had not suffit numbers.
The Hobbit Chapter 17
I like the idea of Tienity!I will choose the first Model for the Scout! :) And the Abilies are great ,but I do not like the last LV 10 Ability! :) But I can't think of another right now :P
Also, you and couple other people have an interesting ideas. ;)You are on fire Tienety :D i really like this idea :)Yes, obviously he is. :D :D :D Without him this Suggestion Area of forum would be semi-dead place. :P Or place with same kind of comments: "Like it!", "Nice!","Good!". :D
This looks nice, just that level requirement of abilities? :) :PGrimir has a same level requirement for abilities as Bilbo. ;)
I must admit that I more liked that crossbow from suggested picture than any bow, but I realise this is scout hero and bow is more suitable (Anyway, IronHills units prefers bow like range weapon more than crossbow). So all range damage units of Iron Hills will have bow, and possibility is that range damage units at Outpost will be equipped with crossbows. :) 8-)
I really can't decide between the first Scout and the one that is on the left of the sevond pic!!I like both realyl much! :) But both will be awesome Scouts with Bow and Axe! :)I like more scout from second picture. :P
The idea for Narin is brillant. Nice system and much more logical (for me) as a dwarvish hero than Hilda Bianca.
And this opinion is shared by the majority of people here ;)Not exactly. Most people want Hilda Bianca from the Lake Town as a map feature - at least. It's obvious - she is so crucial character in the Hobbit movies. ;)
(How can anybody like her? :DI completely agree that Alfrid was useless and annoying character and should be killed by Smaug like master of the Lake Town and rest of the movie would be much more pleasant.
For me Hilda was one of these useless characters in the Hobbit movies, just like Alfrid
And some Narin strikes backMaybe I should remove him from the poll, otherwise it's unfair. :P
I am spaming a little too but still thank you CragLord :D :D Your Mattock is most welcome! :P :D XD
She was in the Movie cuz of feminist reasons :D
Thanks everyone for your support! I'm glad you like "Some Narin" more than Hilda or Bilbo. xD
If you do not know who is Narin, you can find Narin's concept here: Narin (http://en.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,30870.msg406199.html#msg406199)
All who supported Narin for Scout Hero in Iron Hills have my thanks and gratittude as well!I really apriciate it and as Tienity does too I am sure! :)
It was great for us creating that idea and seeing that it so much liked by the fans make us realyl happy,to see that the Fans cherish our effort!really thank you all for the support! :)
Who is Narin?It's reason why I added "some" Narin before his name for the poll. :P