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Titel: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 24. Jan 2016, 23:12
Yeees I know I've already a lot of others projects; the Arnor map pack, Carn Dum, the elven stronghold, and in the background in also working on a rhunic city, a moria conquest mission map an osti-in-Edhil map, the Thorin's halls, the Doors of Thorin's halls an ered Luin stronghold and an iron hills stronghold and more and more BUT I wanted a Dorwinion map and then I began it and I'm really glad of the results, (not enough to post pictures :P )...
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 24. Jan 2016, 23:55
Waiting with interest to see some screens then,!Keep the good work and I am really expecting to see your Ered Luin Maps about Thorin! :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 24. Jan 2016, 23:56
It was a really nice proposition from thorin's nemesis :)
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Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 25. Jan 2016, 00:13
Then thanks to Thorin,he really has awesome ideas! :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 25. Jan 2016, 06:54
I'm really glad that you like my ideas guys  :).
I also can't wait to see progress pics as I haven't seen a Dorwinion map for Bfme2 before  ;).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 25. Jan 2016, 08:26
I explore unique concepts ;P
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Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 09:22
the first images :)

Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 26. Jan 2016, 09:39
Looks great, and the Elven settlement is a nice addition :) By the way, there are two Dorwinion Elven units in WorldBuilder (I forgot their names but they were recruitable from the inn in Edain 3.8.1), you can use them for the settlement as well  ;).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update)
Beitrag von: LordOfMoria am 26. Jan 2016, 09:45
nice work, this settlement looks very good
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Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 26. Jan 2016, 11:46
It looks really nice for now,keep the good work! :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 16:42
just PS: i've finally my icon XD
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 26. Jan 2016, 16:55
Nice icon, a combination of original Bfme2 art and the awesome Dwarven designs from the Hobbit :).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 17:02
good eyes ;)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 17:42
the projected place of the city :D

Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 26. Jan 2016, 17:52
Awesome Icon it looks really great! :-)

 But it is funny we have Elessar with Dwarf Look !  [uglybunti]
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (geopolitics update)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 18:39
Indeed but I m the lone to have an octogon :P
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 26. Jan 2016, 18:56
The projected city (at least its walls, for now  xD) look nice, but I don't think they fit well because they look like Noldor buildings (Rivendell, for example) while I think the Elves of Dorwinion were probably some lesser Elves like the Silvan or Avari; but that may just be my personal taste.
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 19:16
All advice are interesting 

For me it's a region with a lot of elves and humans so its elven architecture with a big human influence and more like a dale influence :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 26. Jan 2016, 20:21
Elves and Men living together in human-influenced settlements sounds interesting, It would probably turn out pretty nice :).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 20:28
Indeed trust me about it ;)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 23:06
Do you want that I explain the geopolitics if the Dorwinion as it is I my mind ? :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 26. Jan 2016, 23:24
Sure :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (image update2)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 26. Jan 2016, 23:47
Well so the Dorwinion is located between Rhun and the Kingdom of Dale, due to that, there is elven AND a lot of men's, the avari elves are not a lot and they are the merchants of Dorwinion, they do commerce with rhun mirkwood and dale. The king is a men and nobles to, the merchants that provide the whole gold of the kingdom and then they have a big influence on the decisions of the king and it is not to please the nobles of the wine council that are the real assembly of the councillors of the king.
A great part of the nobles of Dorwinion have friend or family in the Rhun. The poors are magority from the Rhun.
The poors want an addition of Dorwinion to rhun and the nobles want to be their allies off course the elves don't want it it's dangerous for the commerce,...
So first we have the elves that give advice to the king to a better commerce , if he doesn't listen they'll go other where and it will be a bad thing for him (the elves use their magic to grow better the vines) and that the nobles don't like so they wa,t to see their influence grow.

(excuse me for the mistakes, I'm basically French ^^ )
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (geopolitics update)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 27. Jan 2016, 08:56
Interesting backstory, I wouldn't be able to make up a better one than yours  :).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (geopolitics update)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 09:46
Thanks :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 15:50
the city is done (the buildings)



i will put some little things as barrels, bags, tables ... :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: LordOfMoria am 27. Jan 2016, 15:56
Quite dense ! Maybe you could make the stone texture bit brighter inside the city to reduce the contraste

Zitat
i will put some little things as barrels, bags, tables ... :)

Yes would like to see kinda marketplace at first level  :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 16:05
ha ha c'est juste l'inclinaison de la lumiere je suis encore en train de chercher pour la bonne luminosité :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 27. Jan 2016, 16:23
The city looks amazing, even more grand than Dale and Rivendell  :).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 16:25
Ha ha thanks a lot :)
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Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 27. Jan 2016, 16:42
Really nice looking Fortress,good idea for combining different Cultures there! :-) It is good Map ,but maybe to Crowded and too many buildings,it can be slightly confusing when playing! :-)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (in-game update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 16:46
yes indeed but the second level of city will be just decorations ;)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 17:02
the in-game city:







Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 27. Jan 2016, 17:12
Lol the Map is breathtaking,I love the view and the look of the Fortress,really nice job with it! :-) And as long as there aren't some serious Lags I have no problem with Buildings and all!

Keep the good job.:-)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 17:18
ha ha about the lags XD
i had to supress all civilians XP i will find something else :P
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 27. Jan 2016, 18:24
Looks awesome and, as Dain said, the views are breathtaking  :). Can't wait to play it.
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: FG15 am 27. Jan 2016, 21:55
Because the first map I ever created was a Dorwinion map, I'm quite interested in this project, but I have to admit, that I'm not really convinced, yet.

First of all, the map has hardly any textures on it, but I guess that is only because it is still work in progress. Personally, I prefer starting with the textures and terrain, because after placing many objects, the worldbuilder can be slower when chaning them.

Also, I don't like the combination of the Dale and Elven buildings, because they have completly different colours. The red and blue is far too big contrast in my opinion. Besides the Rivendell buildings are really characteristic and therefore I wouldn't use them for anything but a map related to Rivendell elves. The Rhun buildings outside are again a completly different style.

Furthermore, the city is far too overgrowded. There are many narrow pathes and passages, where the civilians might pass, but hordes won't be able to get through and will get path-finding problems.

As far as I can see, there aren't any buildplots or other free spaces for building (at least in the upper town. How do you plan to make the building system? Also, am I not mistaken, that one of the exits of the city just leads to the edge of the map?

The next thing is, that the fortress takes about a quarter of the map, which is extremly huge and doesn't leave much space for attackers. Also, except the two gates there aren't any defense mechanism, such that the whole wall will be a giantic weakness for the defender.

But I have to say that I like your vineyards, they look quite cool.
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 27. Jan 2016, 22:37
Mmf well indeed the textures aren't place yet I do it at the end and indeed the buildings are a bit imladris style but it is elves and the elves in Dorwinion won't make their houses in the trees (not enough trees) so I need the lone buildings that are solid(house on the floor) and elves (grey havens) for the dale buildings it is because Dorwinion is a wine land, a hill land near of the see and sunny territory, so it should be something like italia (toscana) and south of France so yellow buildings,... The easterlings; as I said, for me they are the poor that thought that if they go to Dorwinion they will be rich but no it won't, they are outside the cities etc. About the playability, the city is just decoration and the look is also to be like Italian old cities with little streets. The first level is make to be playable easily. You dont have to build in there.
Btw thx about vineyards ...  :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 31. Jan 2016, 09:37
How is progress on the map? Will you release it soon?  :)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 31. Jan 2016, 16:04
Haha im sorry it's right that i didn't say anything here since a little time,... No i'm working on the SoD submod for the moment but i don't leave this project of map ;)
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 31. Jan 2016, 16:45
Ok, it's enough to know that you won't forget about the map, I can wait as long as needed  ;).
Titel: Re: The wine-land of Dorwinion (picture update3)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 31. Jan 2016, 16:54
I promise it i won't forget it ;)