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Titel: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 15. Jul 2015, 01:11
I have an idea on how we can balance Khazad dum veterans. What if you make the supply camp cost cost 300, but make it cost 600-800 to buy a pack of ponies. That way no one can mindless send dwarves to khazad dum  :D
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 16. Jul 2015, 20:05
Well the system is a little bit complicated but still good I lvoe the Veterans only their Models should be different!And may be a little bit less health! :)
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: CragLord am 16. Jul 2015, 21:00
You should always take math into consideration! There is chance for getting Khazad Dum Veterans, with different words, you may never get them!  :P
If team in some of next updates decide to reduce number of available battalions, i vote for limit of 6 teams.  :) (With them you can hold hordes of hell which are up you.  :D)
Balance should always be between cost of battalions and chance of getting them.
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 16. Jul 2015, 21:03
The Chance is a little bit too low but thats because they are super strong!45 Battalions of them and you can crush almost everything! :)
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: TiberiusOgden am 16. Jul 2015, 21:23
45 Battalions of them and you can crush almost everything! :)
With 45 battalions you can crush not "almost" but definitely everything. Sometimes you have megalomaniac suggestions, mate. :D :P

By the way it seems that there will be some little change, because current system causes technical problems, as some players have noticed, but I have no official information about it. ;)
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 16. Jul 2015, 21:34
Ha ha !Its not that!It jsut my keyboard is broken and I ahve to change it sometimes when I push 4 or 6 it get the next number too! :D If you remember it happened a lot of times! :D I meant 4-5 :D
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: Walküre am 16. Jul 2015, 21:46
Ha ha !Its not that!It jsut my keyboard is broken and I ahve to change it sometimes when I push 4 or 6 it get the next number too! :D If you remember it happened a lot of times! :D I meant 4-5 :D

Yes, yes... Don't deny your secret desires of dominion upon all Edain realms  :P

By the way, some time ago I was playing with the Blue Mountains, and, after a lot of troubles and struggle, I finally managed to get the Veterans; but, when I tried to give Thorin the Mithril armour, there has been a bug that activated this power, but there was no armour instead  xD
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 16. Jul 2015, 22:23
Yup it is a knowned bug they said they will fix it! :-)
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: Walküre am 16. Jul 2015, 22:31
I know, but that bug destroyed completely my moral  :D
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: CragLord am 17. Jul 2015, 00:34
There is also one weird situation with pony camps.
I presume that all experienced players always build this camp close to base, so dwarven guardian battalions could be fast combined with ponies. ( Effect is that ponies with dwarves leave map before you combined new dwarven battalion with new pony set) But once I played Helm's Deep map, so I built pony camp at farthest corner of map, and near  camp I summoned that Moria gate building so I can bring fresh battalions. First bug was that combination of ponies and dwarves always walked over Hornburg's wall and went in that corner of map.  I always combined new battalion of ponies and dwarves before previous disappeared from map. So second bug was that no single Veteran units came back, I continued to combine  and send them and in one moment I gave up.(Sent about 20 combinations)  And few moments after last pony&dwarf unit disappeared from map, 6 battalions of Veterans appeared! So there is some side effect, and  you  should always wait that combined battalion disappear from map and then combine and send new one.
Titel: Re: Khazad dum veterans.
Beitrag von: Draco100000 am 17. Jul 2015, 22:48
Veterans are very op, but can be countered with a enormous amount of archers, I think edain team simply can change the chance sistem. for every 5 min which pass the chance to get them grows 2,5 % (starting at 5%) so after 20 min the chance must be 15% and after 40 min 25%. So this can make them as late game powerfull units, allowing the player to counter enemie hero units. I prefer this than ban them from every match that i play with dwarves, I dont know the chance to get them right now or how it grows, but is too high.