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Titel: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: dgsgomes am 11. Sep 2016, 17:00

Good morning, community. How are we all? :D

I am making this topic to start a debate about Quickbeam's existance in this game. I have a proposal, which I will explain along this debate, which consists basically of two things: removing Quickbeam as a hero from this game and modifying Treebeard (giving him Quickbeam's ability to make ent's production faster, giving him a poor heal rate and increasing his price considerably).

Some things, such as the fact that Lothlorien already have so many heroes and the fact that Quickbeam does not even have a unique skin, made me start to wonder if is it a good thing to have him as a hero afterall.

What do you think? :)

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: bookworm1138 am 11. Sep 2016, 17:11

I like the inclusion of characters from the books. So yeah, no need to remove him.

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: The_Necromancer0 am 11. Sep 2016, 18:53

I'm against removing him, he's a nice addition to Lothlorien. As of his ability it fits him perfectly, being younger Quickbeam was always quite hasty in terms of Ents. He was the first to want to attack Isengard and pushed the other Ents to do so. Although he is technically not as much of a Leader as Treebeard the Ent politics seem to show that anybody can start the war as long as they've got a good reason behind it.

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: Lord of Mordor am 11. Sep 2016, 19:27

Quickbeam already has a unique model.

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: The_Necromancer0 am 11. Sep 2016, 21:33

As taken from the wiki:
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/edain-mod/images/d/df/Ents1.JPG/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20160229141243)

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/edain-mod/images/0/0b/Flinkbaum_1322812816.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160202171415)

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: Saruman_the_wise am 11. Sep 2016, 23:17

That wiki pic only shows 2 out of the 3 ent variants, the third variant is almost identical to Quickbeam except Quickbeam is a more dark green and may have a few leafs here and there.

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: Julio229 am 11. Sep 2016, 23:26

I don't think he should be removed, it is so awesome to have an angry Ent just from the beginning, and his fast recruitment ability is outstanding. I almost use him more than Treebeard.

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: Lord of Mordor am 12. Sep 2016, 00:03

Zitat von: Saruman_the_wise am 11. Sep 2016, 23:17

That wiki pic only shows 2 out of the 3 ent variants, the third variant is almost identical to Quickbeam except Quickbeam is a more dark green and may have a few leafs here and there.

Nope. He also has a different body, only the head is similiar (though not identical):

(http://modding-union.com/edainimg/game_2016-09-11_23-59-17-671_1473631287.jpg) (http://modding-union.com/edainimg/game_2016-09-11_23-59-17-671_1473631287.jpg)

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: Saruman_the_wise am 12. Sep 2016, 01:10

Its still to similar imo, the fact that people confuse it with being almost identical is bad. (btw this isn't a major ground breaking catastrophe just saying it'd be nice for him to stand out and have his model be more memorable like your other works.)

Titel: Re: About Quickbeam and Treebeard
Beitrag von: Walküre am 12. Sep 2016, 01:20

Left aside graphical matters (which are usually not so easy to deal with in discussions), I strongly oppose the removal of Quickbeam too or altering his current role; all the needed conceptual and gameplay arguments have already been presented in the previous remarks.