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[en] Edain Mod => [Edain] Suggestions => [Edain] Angmar Suggestions => Thema gestartet von: FilipMakedonski am 8. Apr 2016, 16:35
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I created this poll for the very reason that there are many people complaining about Witch-King's abilities when he accept the One Ring that need to be changed, improved or replaced with something better.
This is an open poll were everyone should express his ideas, thoughts, proposals. Feel free to suggest even better ideas than those stated by me :D
I truly hope that the Team will have this in consideration and will decide to improve him after they are interested in some unique idea :D
Have a nice day folks,
FilipMakedonski
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It's definitely better setting the foundations of a good debate and building up a progressive discussion, in which everyone can express and motivate its own opinions. Then, you may come up with shared proposals and options to present to the whole Community.
I won't lock the poll, for now, but I encourage all the people willing to participate in this topic to explain their choice and to offer reasons of their possible agreements or disagreements :)
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I don't think the Witch King is a great Ring Hero right now. The bonuses are cool, but I think he needs something more. Look at Galadriel, Sauron or Saruman and then, look at him... I find him lacking.
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Walk - You wan't explanation? Here's one:
One ring is really powerfull tool, and if Witch-King is using it, he really should get some addition to state that he's in now.
I woted on making his support heroes ability pemanent because I think that as a lider of faction, he would use his powers not only to become personally invincible, but for making his generals more usable, so all his army gets stronger and Angmar could become really mihgty.
We all know that he like usable toys (one of nine rings, fellbeast, his sword that gets on fire, etc.) so it will be reasonable, that his human (and not only human) toys gets stronger, to better serve him.
Also, I think that when he gets the ring - Rogash and his trolls should loose their timers (make them permanent). It will be nice addition. ;)
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Walk - You wan't explanation? Here's one:
One ring is really powerfull tool, and if Witch-King is using it, he really should get some addition to state that he's in now.
I woted on making his support heroes ability pemanent because I think that as a lider of faction, he would use his powers not only to become personally invincible, but for making his generals more usable, so all his army gets stronger and Angmar could become really mihgty.
We all know that he like usable toys (one of nine rings, fellbeast, his sword that gets on fire, etc.) so it will be reasonable, that his human (and not only human) toys gets stronger, to better serve him.
Also, I think that when he gets the ring - Rogash and his trolls should loose their timers (make them permanent). It will be nice addition. ;)
I think this would work wonderfully, with the Witch-King getting his the option of his Fell-Beast, this of course disabling most of his abilities.
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No, fellbeasts were breed in mordor. So they should stay mordor's feature only.
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No, fellbeasts were breed in mordor. So they should stay mordor's feature only.
I beg to disagree.
When I think of the WK, three aspects come to mind:
1. The Leader of the Nazgul
2. Lord of Angmar
3. Rider of a Fell-Beast
In particular the iconic moment for the WK for me was when he rode on his fell-beast while besieging minas tirith. As such while his second aspect is inappropriate for Angmar I feel, that when he is a ring-hero (A tiny % of the time) it would be ok to allow him to have that third aspect.
As for the fact that fell-beasts were only in Mordor, I feel that considering how the good fractions have a fair amount of overlap (Gondor has Rohan, Arnor has Rivendell, Rohan has lothlorien) that this small overlap could be allowed for Angmar is this case. It would also be a optional ability.
In the end however if he did get a flying mount, I would not mind Dragon or Fell-Beast, it is just a Fell-Beast seems better suited to his character and easier to implement. In the end I am fine with whatever decision the Edain team makes.
However I do see where you are coming from.
EDIT: Grammer and Spelling (Blasted wireless keyboard)
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I dont know if this was only in the hero submod but in 3.8.1 i think he could summon a creature of the ancient world that was really cool. It would be like lvl 10 abilitie.
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I personally like the current effects. My only problem was it seemed like he was the same in attack and appearance (except a color change and smoke). I think an increased standard attack and armor with a bit more flair would be good. IMO
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I agree with Linhir, his hero support ability should be made permanent but have a longer cooldown. I also agree that the fellbeast should be a Mordor thing only but I do think that he could get a bigger AOE with his flail.
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I think a slightly bigger AOE with his flail might not be such a bad idea. He is a little underwhelming for 3000.
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Personally I think the current concept quite nice. His passive and global ability is extremely strong over time. But I can understand if people think that he is boring as ring hero compared to Sauron or Gandalf who can kill whole armies with their abilities.
As a conclusion I wouldn't change his abilities, yet I would support a health and attack buff for his ring hero form.