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Titel: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 16. Jul 2015, 14:33
Remember how you said that if Rohan needed good infantry/archers bad enough, you would add them? Judging from the feedback Rohan is getting, you should add them. Make them a level 3 archery range unit. Or you can just make Hama's summon permanent. I generally don't play Rohan because all the enemy needs in-order to beat you is a mass-slayer-hero, and an army of pikes. This unit should fix that  :P


Edit: I have added a poll, please vote on it.
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: Skeeverboy am 18. Jul 2015, 02:23
Have you any idea which unit of the history of Rohan can do this? The Galadrim are in the Spellbook and no other strong archers are possible, I think. It is better when you can detailed a unit, because so the Team can better see what you want.
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 18. Jul 2015, 04:48
Royal archers can be summoned by Hama at the moment, and they swap sword/bow. And when the team first released 4.0, they said they would add them if Rohan needed good archers/infantry bad enough.  :P
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: Ealendril der Dunkle am 18. Jul 2015, 10:22
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they said they would add them if Rohan needed good archers/infantry bad enough
I cant remember, that i've said that. I think Rohan doesnt need another ranged unit.
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: Adrigabbro am 18. Jul 2015, 23:03
http://www.moddb.com/mods/edain-mod/news/the-road-to-edain-40-rohan
Last sentence or so.
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 19. Jul 2015, 02:29
Thank you for doing that, that is what I meant  xD. Anyways, Rohan needs something to counter mass pike spam, because at the moment farmers are not strong enough to be of any use later in the game :(, and the Westfold units can get killed by a mass slayer hero :o, or archers. Plus the horse archers can't kill upgraded pikes fast enough :-|. So if Rohan were to get this unit, rather a summon from Hama (Permanently, and 120 cp), or as a level 3 archery range unit, they would be able to counter pike spam, and make people think about what unit to use vs Rohan a bit more. Of course, it would be hard to balance this kind of unit in Rohan, but you can balance it out a bit once it's released.
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: CynasFan am 19. Jul 2015, 02:40
And why new archers?
It would be much better to make this, which currently exist stronger. Much stronger. Very much stronger. Up to the strongest archers in Helms Deep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_y_Pa-AIB4&spfreload=10) [uglybunti]
Greetings, CynasFan
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: Skeeverboy am 19. Jul 2015, 03:54
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because at the moment farmers are not strong enough to be of any use later in the game
At the moment Rohan are just Farmers. I haven't see horses long time, because Farmerspamm is very much Stronger.
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Plus the horse archers can't kill upgraded pikes fast enough
Update them, this are some of the best Archers in the game ;)
But I think it were a good Idea, to make Archers for Erkenbrand,... available.
Titel: Re: Royal archers
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 19. Jul 2015, 09:16
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because at the moment farmers are not strong enough to be of any use later in the game
At the moment Rohan are just Farmers. I haven't see horses long time, because Farmerspamm is very much Stronger.
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Plus the horse archers can't kill upgraded pikes fast enough
Update them, this are some of the best Archers in the game ;)
But I think it were a good Idea, to make Archers for Erkenbrand,... available.

Then why don't we give Rohan a power to summon Gandalf the white. Gandalf the white would stun all units on the map, and render any pikes useless for a whole minute. That way cavalry will be used   xD
Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: Walküre am 21. Jul 2015, 01:33
It honestly doesn't convince me.
Hama's power should not be changed, lest he deviates so much from his role; I find his summoned units very unique, especially for the fact that they are temporary.

As Skeeverboy wrote, the Galadhrim, available via the Spellbook, are arguably the best archers in Middle Earth in the Third Age, they should fix the problem  :)
Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: CragLord am 21. Jul 2015, 12:59

Walküre buddy, how many time you played with Rohan? :)
Galadhrim are arguably the best archers in Middle Earth in the Third Age. They are, from Lore aspect. In game I really don't find them strong enough, that should be changed,(Their range damage.) to solve this "so call it archers" problem, but there is time problem with reaching this power from spell book.

A am also for this,(Not to make them too much stronger!) this could solve problem of weak archers, but try not to OP Rohan in general/starting phase.
But there is also Rohhirim's archers who are very good so, so starting archers should be buffed but no so much.

Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: Walküre am 21. Jul 2015, 15:37



Walküre buddy, how many time you played with Rohan? :)
Galadhrim are arguably the best archers in Middle Earth in the Third Age. They are, from Lore aspect. In game I really don't find them strong enough, that should be changed,(Their range damage.) to solve this "so call it archers" problem, but there is time problem with reaching this power from spell book.


Enough time to say that Rohan doesn't need a new type of archery unit, both for its nature and the gameplay  :)

I find the Galadhrim very versatile and agile, not to mention useful.
Every faction has a problem with Time, because it too takes time to achieve the aid of Evil Men, Beornings or Gandalf.
Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 21. Jul 2015, 20:17
Look, the whole point of this topic is to give Rohan something that can counter mass pike spam. If the Royal archers aren't getting added(They are not just archers, they can swap sword/bow), then the spear-throwers should become strong vs pike/cavalry :P.
Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: Elite KryPtik am 23. Jul 2015, 16:37
I think changing Hama's summon to a permanent one, limiting it to 3 units, and increasing the cooldown would be a good enough way to counter late game pike spam and give Rohan some hero infantry.
Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: CragLord am 23. Jul 2015, 23:31
This isn't bad idea, because Rohan anyway have only one kind of elite units for now. Ad So change is that Hama on 10 level can summon permanent battalions of this Royal units. Adding this to Rohan would make more diversity to Rohan's elite/hero units and also make Rohan stronger and easy able to count pike/archers combo. :)
Titel: Re: Royal archers (There is a poll to vote on, please vote)
Beitrag von: Tienety am 24. Jul 2015, 16:17
This isn't bad idea, because Rohan anyway have only one kind of elite units for now. Ad So change is that Hama on 10 level can summon permanent battalions of this Royal units. Adding this to Rohan would make more diversity to Rohan's elite/hero units and also make Rohan stronger and easy able to count pike/archers combo. :)

I agree, I like this idea about Royal guard on foot like permanent summon. 8-)