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Titel: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Tienety am 3. Aug 2015, 21:03
I think that Bill Ferny isn't fit for Isengar as scout. Bill Ferny never fought for Isengard. Also, Bill Ferny is one of the least favorite hero in mod.

i have idea for new more fit scout hero for Isengard:

Mauhur
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130730180240/lotr/images/6/69/Mauhur_Uruk.jpg)
Mauhur is a small character from the book and movie. He was a standard hero in the old version of edain mod. But now he is only as summon for Ugluk on level 10. I think Mauhur is more fit for scout role in Isengard. After all, he is uruk-hai from Isengard. Bill can stay in mod on special maps or something like this. 8-)

Mauhur abilities:

Level 1: Toggle Weapon - Switches between axe and crossbow.

Mauhur has crossbows in old version of mod. This will be something unique for him. if I know no one hero in edain used crossbows. :D

Level 1: Gather Scent
Mauhur gathers the scent of the hunted enemy.
Mahur and his elite scouts have 200% visition range and 25% speed for 20 seconds.

Level 4: Man flesh
Mauhur smell flesh of enemy hero.
For a short amount of time, the closest enemy hero will be uncovered.

Level 6: Mauhúr's reinforcements
Mauhur temporarily summon four elite scouts with axe.

Level 8: Hunting trap
Mauhur set a Hunting trap to selected area.
If Enemy unit and hero step on a trap, gets medium damage and -15% move speed for 10 seconds.
Trap can have this design:

Of course, Ugluk needs a new ability:

Level 10: Escape from encirclement
Ugluk and his guys fight to the last man and trying to get out form encirclement.
Ugluk and uruk-hai units nearby are immune against knockback and can't be trampling for 15 seconds.

What do you think about this idea?  8-)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 4. Aug 2015, 10:06
I too!Never really liked Bill!He is not so well suited for the role of Isengard's Scout! :)
The idea of Mauhur to get that roles is much better,he may have small role in Books and Movies but still more suiting for Scout and after all scouts are not the stars,so I think he will fit in that position!
The Abilities you came up with are awesome they are balanced and connected t othe heros role in books and movies! :)
So over all I agree completely  with your proposal! :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ringbearer am 4. Aug 2015, 10:37
Honestly , i use him almost every time but i never pay money so he can level up , for me it's just a waste , considering new abilities he gets. And Mauhur , i remmember him from edain mod for BFME1 evil campaign :D too bad that he is just a summon now. I don't think that he needs a weapon switch, i'm okay with crossbow only :) . "Mahur and his elite scouts have 300% visition range and 20% damage for 20 seconds." well , isn't 300% too much? it's half of the map :D maybe it was supposed to be 30% :) . Other abilities are good i think :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 4. Aug 2015, 11:39
I don't think a damage boost at a level 1 skill is very suitable. as far as I know, barely hero has such an ability :/

Though I would put it as a 200% view range, and a 25% speed increase.
after all speed is more important for scouts XD
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: makis89 am 4. Aug 2015, 12:01
Bill Ferry is the scout i never used ... a waste of money in my opinion and never match with the Isengard faction ... better be replaced by Mauhur .. :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Tienety am 4. Aug 2015, 12:25
Zitat von: ringbearer am  4. Aug 2015, 10:37
Honestly , i use him almost every time but i never pay money so he can level up , for me it's just a waste , considering new abilities he gets. And Mauhur , i remmember him from edain mod for BFME1 evil campaign :D too bad that he is just a summon now. I don't think that he needs a weapon switch, i'm okay with crossbow only :) . "Mahur and his elite scouts have 300% visition range and 20% damage for 20 seconds." well , isn't 300% too much? it's half of the map :D maybe it was supposed to be 30% :) . Other abilities are good i think :)
I think that weapon switch is fit for him. If he has only crossbow, he can't destroy buildings. Also, Other uruk scouts have melee attack and weapon switch, so Mauhur will be an easy target only with crossbow.

Mauhur has only "Gather Scent " ability in 4.1.1. You can try this ability in game. He does not reveal half of the map. I just kept this ability, it is fit for his scout role. Maybe Gather Scent needs only small change. ;)

Zitat von: hoho96 am  4. Aug 2015, 11:39
Though I would put it as a 200% view range, and a 25% speed increase.
after all speed is more important for scouts XD
Yes, I agree, probably this is better for him. ;)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 4. Aug 2015, 12:50
i think its an awesome idea
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 4. Aug 2015, 15:04
Nice idea, must say that I haven't play so much with Billy boy, simply because for now I play only vs AI, not yet tried PvP, so I can't speak about benefit of Billy's abilities in general. Of course against AI, I never used him as scout hero. :)

Like this idea about Mauhur, like selection of ablities, only I found that explosive shoot exotic. I prefer to replace that with some AoE trap ability, which could have stun effect or armour decrease effect or hp decrease effect on all units in general (including heros) or only heroes. Personally think that trap more suits to scout hero than explosive shoot. :)

P.S. Nice suggestion about Ugluk, that ability fits. You used that book/movie situation with Rohhirim as inspiration, nicely done.  ;)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Tienety am 4. Aug 2015, 15:30
Zitat von: CragLord am  4. Aug 2015, 15:04
Like this idea about Mauhur, like selection of ablities, only I found that explosive shoot exotic. I prefer to replace that with some AoE trap ability, which could have stun effect or armour decrease effect or hp decrease effect on all units in general (including heros)
or only heroes. Personally think that trap more suits to scout hero than explosive shoot. :)
Yes, maybe explosive shoot is not fit for him, but this is fit for Isengard. :D
But Lurtz/Grima already has abilities with stun effect or armour decrease effect.
Maybe just change this ability to Fire bolt?
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 4. Aug 2015, 17:24
And what about explosive trap? :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Tienety am 4. Aug 2015, 19:00
Zitat von: CragLord am  4. Aug 2015, 17:24
And what about explosive trap? :)
I do not know, maybe if you have some good effect for this explosive trap. ;)

Or maybe something like this with fire:

Level 8: Fire trap
Mauhur shots a few fire bolts to selected small area. Selected areas will burn for short time. Enemy units and heroes move slowly and get fire damage in this area.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 4. Aug 2015, 19:12
Fire trap sounds like good choice. :)
Just to be some kind of trap, that is better than any kind of shoot in my opinion. :P
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: LordDainIronfoot am 5. Aug 2015, 08:15
Well since he is a Scout a trap against strong Against Units will be more fitting that a Shot strong against Heroes I think! :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: TiberiusOgden am 8. Aug 2015, 20:51
Seriously - what is Bill Ferny doing in Isengard? xD
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 8. Aug 2015, 20:52
i dont think Bill Ferny fitt for isengard
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Elite KryPtik am 9. Aug 2015, 05:23
I fully agree with this idea, you should make this into a poll to let people vote on it. Bill Ferny is much too strong early game, everybody who is good at the game always immediately levels him to level 10 to get his final ability which basically refunds the money you have spent, because he gets 20 resources per hit, and makes him able to kill any other scout hero early game. I never liked the concept of instantly leveling a hero to level 10 by paying for it anyways.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Tienety am 9. Aug 2015, 10:27
Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  9. Aug 2015, 05:23
I fully agree with this idea, you should make this into a poll to let people vote on it.
Ok, I add poll. 8-)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Walküre am 9. Aug 2015, 13:14
I completely support your proposal, Tienety  :)

I never liked Bill Ferny, though useful he could have been.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Draco100000 am 9. Aug 2015, 14:23
Agree, Mauhur fits perfectly with isengard, but Bill Ferny almost make the job to deal enormous dmg to enemie heros and stole resources in early, anyway, i hate him, i prefer Mauhur.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 9. Aug 2015, 14:37
You are not only one with that opinion. I hate him too. He is traitor, one more traitor in race of men... Remove him please. :P ;)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Tienety am 28. Aug 2015, 09:11
Maybe I have better idea for Mauhur's trap ability:

Level 8: Hunting trap
Mauhur set a Hunting trap to selected area.
If Enemy unit and hero step on a trap, gets medium damage and -15% move speed for 10 seconds.
Trap can have this design:

What do you think? 8-)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Gimilzar am 28. Aug 2015, 10:02
So you want Mauhur as an Scout hero instead of Bill. But what about Ugluk? He will be missing one vital ability. Besides I like Bill as an Scout hero. Easy to harass the enemy and bring chaos behind the enemy lines.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 28. Aug 2015, 10:51
Ugluk will get new ability of course. All is explained at main comment by Tienety.
And according to poll results, most people don't like Bill. :P :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Saruman_the_wise am 30. Okt 2015, 03:17
Excellent idea! Tienety
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: The_Necromancer0 am 30. Okt 2015, 07:03
agreed it's a great idea
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Shagrat am 30. Okt 2015, 23:17
Zitat
Bill Ferny shouldn't be with Isengard
why? he was working for Saruman... should he be with Gondor? Or Rohan? How about Imladris? Or Lothlorien?
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Saruman_the_wise am 31. Okt 2015, 02:23
why not included at all since he's one of the most unknown and disliked character in edain and lotr
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 31. Okt 2015, 13:13
why have Bill Ferny as a scout if you can have another uruk in there
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Adrigabbro am 31. Okt 2015, 13:35
I do not like Bill Ferny in Edain. In MP games, most people use him as an early game fighter by leveling him straight to level 10 and only using his last ability, with which he is able to 1v1 most scouts and wreck the two first battailions. However in the books he is no more than a wicked man afraid to face Sam. That's how he should be.

I believe he could use some rework. His main features should be spying and stealing, not fighting. Here are my ideas:
~> First, remove/reduce dramatically his damage per level (after all, he doesn't level by fighting but by getting paid). Make him unable to 1v1 anyone, even Merry or Pippin.
~> Of course it would suck if he died whenever he would encounter an enemy. He would get a new ability:
Bill Ferny inspires mercy to his enemies who allow him to get off. He cannot be attacked for x seconds and gain x% bonus movement speed.
This ability would replace Snitch (closest heroes revealed). Current Snitch could be merged with Bribery, that would now spy an enemy resource building, steal a short amount of money and reveal all heroes within a certain range.
~> Last but not least, I got an idea concerning a entirely new last ability. Upon activation, Bill Ferny surrounds himself with 5 other traitors of Bree who attack who/what Bill attacks and steal resource. I like it because it would allow Bill Ferny to defend himself or even attack isolated troops by keeping close to his personality (fight only when he has the advantage).

I also suggest either to increase the amount of money necessary to level up or to put a cooldown between two pays of saboteur services, so that it is not possible to get him and level him up straight to level 10 at the start of the game.

However, if most people do not like Bill Ferny at all, I'm also fine with Mauhur and I'm sure he would be a cool scoot. It would just be a pity to lose the only reference to the spies of Bree in Isengard (if you have any other idea to integrate it in the faction, besides the scout hero?)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 31. Okt 2015, 13:47
you can use Mauhúr  as a scout this guy

or they can make this guy Lugdush


they are both good looking and i think they will fit in isengard better than Bil Ferny
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: mauhir42 am 5. Dez 2015, 04:21
Man this is a great idea..i agree bill ferny must go and mauhur is perfect replacement..what does the efain team think?
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 5. Dez 2015, 08:11
If you want to remove Bill Ferny as a scout hero, but still keep him ingame;                                 perhaps Isengard could get a new outpost/settlement  building?                                                   It would have the same look as an inn, and it'd be called "House of the traiters"                   And in it, you could hire Bill Ferny, and some Bree spear-men.(They can probably use the same model as Rohan's Traiter Spearmen) The spearmen would be very weak. The house should be pretty cheap, and i've thought of some abillities for it.
                                                                                       
We have our sources.
Description: locates the nearest enemy battalion.

We need more men: Cost 300-500+.
Description: Causes the Spearmen of bree to come out in a battalion twice the size
(They come out in a battalion of 10  when you first buy them, so they'd now be in a horde of 20).                                                                                           
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: helloa2134 am 5. Dez 2015, 09:19
Im not sure what purpose those men of Bree would serve.  Does Isengard really need a cheap spear unit? I'm not convinced they do.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ringbearer am 5. Dez 2015, 09:35
Isengard has a cheap ( free ) spear unit :D Wulfgar's new ability ;) ... and why wouldn't isen need a cheap spear unit , everybody needs it, early cavalary rush and you are done
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ™Æ¿® Aragorn £ ‡™ am 5. Dez 2015, 11:08
Zitat von: ringbearer am  5. Dez 2015, 09:35
Isengard has a cheap ( free ) spear unit :D Wulfgar's new ability ;) ... and why wouldn't isen need a cheap spear unit , everybody needs it, early cavalary rush and you are done

That was why I chose spears :P Wulfgar's abillity is level 5, so I don't think he'd be able to counter early cavalry rushes.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: The_Necromancer0 am 5. Dez 2015, 16:17
I don't wanna spoil the party but isn't Mauhur already in the game as a LVL10 temp summon for Ugluk?
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: lotr1997 am 8. Dez 2015, 09:36
I am not very fond of Bill Ferny for sure i think this would be absolutely great if it was added into the game, great proposal  :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 8. Dez 2015, 19:15
Mauhur  is not the only isengard orc that can be a scout
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: mauhir42 am 9. Dez 2015, 08:12
Greetings to all..my idea for Mauhur is a bit different.Mauhurs weapon would remain the axe with no bow toggle since lurtz already has that covered.level one power would be gather the scent..a large portion of the map would be revealed to the isengard player and all nearby enemy units detected.level three power would be called tight rations..Mauhur would complain of having nothing to eat but maggoty bread for three stinking days..Mauhur and all nearby uruk scouts would get a 15 percent attack bonus but a 15 percent speed decrease for 25 seconds.level five power would be called manflesh..Mauhur would regenerate health while killing enemies and gain a large attack and armor bonus for 20 seconds.level eight power would be a great axe throw which does good damage to heroes.level ten power would be called Mauhurs Lads ..Mauhur would hear his captain ugluks call and summon two battalions of level two uruk scouts complete with shield and bow upgrades.these troops would stay on the field until killed.Mauhur would cost 1400 just like ugluk and lurtz.isengard would be complete with three stout uruk leaders.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Elite KryPtik am 9. Dez 2015, 09:17
Bill Ferny is a scout hero, which is what the concept here is for. There wouldn't be room to have Mauhur as a full fledged hero.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: mauhir42 am 9. Dez 2015, 18:53
I get it about the scout hero..but i dont understand when you say there wouldnt be room for another regular hero.look at how many heroes mordor has.Regardless i still support the Mauhur scout hero idea that the original poster has too.hopefully one day Mauhur will have a little bigger role in the mod.never hurts to have a couple of different ideas floating around.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Odysseus am 10. Dez 2015, 00:15
Of course, it doesn't hurt. But if they get shot down, you musn't be discouraged. Keep posting and eventually your ideas will improve over time. If Bill Ferny would be replaced by Mauhur (which already has an interesting rendition, in my opinion, or Lugdush for that matter, some draft on what kind of abilities he would use would be required. Thankfully, Tienety already kindly presented a set of abilities similar to that of Ferny so that's checked.
While I agree that it would be more logical to have an Uruk as a fighting scout hero, Ferny's final ability is important in competitive 1v1, because he aids Isengard in overcoming their ''weaker'' early game. I don't know what the team thinks, but I believe it would be important to have a hero with that kind of ability, especially if you have an adversary that pins you in your base with an early rush so that you can either purchase more defenses or research the Machinery of War upgrade sooner and actually start getting out more combat effective troops, because Isengard will have a rough time. Especially Peasants will do some nasty things to early game Isengard, depending on the map.
All in all, I would agree with this proposal, if some resources benefitting ability would be given to him, similar in power and timing as Ferny, or earlier timing, but with weaker benefits.

Greetings.

Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Elite KryPtik am 10. Dez 2015, 04:54
Actually, ever since the latest patch Isengard is not weak early game anymore, they are now one of the strongest. Spam out a few wildmen and save up for Wulfgar.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Odysseus am 10. Dez 2015, 04:58
Are they? What changed suddenly that made them strong then? Wulfgar's abilities? What you speak of has been the go-to strategy for quite some patches now, because otherwise you'll probably get rolled in 1v1. Unless ET changed their minds, I still remember them saying that Isengard is supposed to be weaker early game.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Elite KryPtik am 10. Dez 2015, 09:54
Well, in practice, combined with Bill Ferny, Isengard Wildmen EG can wreck most others. The only ones who can give them a good run are Rohan, and even then some good Bill micro can wreck them. The new abilities for Wulfgar make a big difference, I rush him now just like I rush Gamling as Rohan.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Odysseus am 10. Dez 2015, 16:15
Hmm yes. I will try some of that. Anyway, would you replace Ferny with Mauhur or Lugdush still? Personally, I am finally getting used to play Isengard's early-game, and then they want to change the scout hero, a key part of any early game lol. Oh well.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Elite KryPtik am 10. Dez 2015, 18:10
I don't think Bill fits at all. He was a scumbag, sure, but he sold information to anybody as would buy it, including the Nazgul.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: mauhir42 am 10. Dez 2015, 23:10
I agree with Elite..bill was never actually seen in isengard..only bree..dont think he fits ..Prefer Mauhur but Lugdush is cool too if anybody has any good ideas for him
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: DrHouse93 am 11. Dez 2015, 01:55
I will once again give my support to Mauhur as the scout hero. I just ended a couple of matches against Lothlorien, and I didn't really need Bill (ok, I played a bunch of matches because the AI kept crushing me down, but that's another story xD). The point is, even if his last skill is really useful, he has to get level 10 first. If he reaches it by experience, it will take too much time, while if he reaches it by money, you would waste a lot of money for a skill only, which is something Isengard can't afford in the early game.

Trust me, in the Early Game Dunlendings are absolute beasts, especially if equipped with torches and sometimes escorted by Uruk Scouts, until you can overcome the EG by recruiting Wulfgar^^
(Atleast, that's my strategy)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 11. Dez 2015, 03:07

I completely agree with those words! +1 form me, and  I also voted long time ago for Billy "banishment" from Isenguard... Reasons are pretty clear, and House you described them very well!

Regards,
CragLord
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ringbearer am 11. Dez 2015, 14:08
To tell the truth , i don't like mauhur the same as bill ferny :D still bill is more unique then another uruk non-important hero. Personally , i would like to see some scout horde. I don't think that isengard needs another uruk hero.

I am more open to use ROTWK uruk deathbringers in some changed form as scouts, 3 uruk horde with interesting abilities would be a better choice IMO than hero. It wasn't a bad idea in Iron hills after all. :)
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 11. Dez 2015, 14:39
I understand that maybe "uruk" hero as scout isn't so unique, but I really can say that Bill is not correlated to Isenguard in any tearm.
He as one "opportunistic backstabber" from Bree. His evil works are correlated with Nazguls not with Saruman, and he sold some information about hobbits to Nazguls so they latter attacked Bree and Prancing Pony... I really don't see why he is so unique in terms of Isenguard scout hero. He isn't correlated to Isenguard...
Mahur in other hand was some kind of scout, or uruk scout. :)

About your suggestion of scouting horde, it is nice. Problem is probably because similar stuff already exist in game (as you have said in IH faction), and those scouting uruks are already used as base unit in game for Isenguard faction. I presume that would be problem in eyes of team etc

Personally I like idea. :)

Regards,
CragLord
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Adamin am 11. Dez 2015, 16:55
Zitat von: ringbearer am 11. Dez 2015, 14:08
I am more open to use ROTWK uruk deathbringers in some changed form as scouts, 3 uruk horde with interesting abilities would be a better choice IMO than hero.

Just in case: The models of the deathbringers will only return over my dead body.

Hate those weird horny... things.

Zitat von: CragLord am 11. Dez 2015, 14:39
I understand that maybe "uruk" hero as scout isn't so unique, but I really can say that Bill is not correlated to Isenguard in any tearm.
He as one "opportunistic backstabber" from Bree. His evil works are correlated with Nazguls not with Saruman, and he sold some information about hobbits to Nazguls so they latter attacked Bree and Prancing Pony... I really don't see why he is so unique in terms of Isenguard scout hero. He isn't correlated to Isenguard...
Mahur in other hand was some kind of scout, or uruk scout. :)

Well, he was one of the ruffians who controlled the Shire folk for Saruman, so there is a connection.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ringbearer am 11. Dez 2015, 22:03
I am not a "they should have darker hair or another weapon model" type of fan, it's really beyond me. :D I just like the idea of having a uruk scout horde of 3, as a basic point it sounds intersting. But i am not sure if you( and a team) and other players are open to change in isen scout position. Bill is unique , but not so interesting, it's always the same: get him to level 10 and use his last ability and that's it :/
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: CragLord am 12. Dez 2015, 03:02

Belive me Admin, I have read all those chapters in Return of the King in order to find this information. And yes, he guarded the gate at the Brandywine Bridge and he joined to Saruman after his official downfall.
I forgot this obviously in meanwhile... All which I remembered about him was situation when he sold information about hobbits to Nazguls, and later when Samwise hit him in nose with apple because of that. :D And after I read those chapters again, his pony also kicked his ass. xD :D
So yes, you were right, there are good lore reasons.

P.S.Maybe on his place also could be implementet this one: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Squint-eyed_Southerner
Because he was the most trusted of these "scums" to Saruman. Those are official information from Tolkien gateway which is the most accurate site about Toliken works in general. I just say, this was probably matter for time when you implemented Bil in first place.

Regards,
CragLord
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: ahdover am 28. Feb 2016, 00:20
I know it has been awhile. But I would like this to happen.
Titel: Re: New scout hero for Isengard
Beitrag von: Delta am 8. Apr 2016, 16:46
How about having Bill as a NPC, one you can approach and buy information from. Maybe buy some debuffs aswell.

He just roams around and can be interacted by any faction?