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[Edain] Dwarven Suggestions / Re: Durin's fate in the Edain Mod
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I´d like to present my ideas for the ring-functions of young Dain and Thorin. Concerning Hannar I will wait for Aule, as the whole creation of this character was his and his friend idea. This will be a longer post and most of it are not about Durin or the ring-function at all, but it´s aim is to complete the topic by focussing on Dain and Thorin. If it´s in the wrong place just move it to another thread or write me and I will do it myself.
Standart abbilities of the two different versions of Dain:
I know read not only the ring-concepts of Dain and Thorin, but also their normal abbilities and it came to my mind, that Dains character-developement as described in the book (and seen in the movie) is somehow contradicted:
Young Dain was the one, who came with his army by forced marches all the way from the Iron Hills and was totally fine to let the situation escalate and fight against Elves and Humans. He doesn´t seem to me as a defender, more an atacker.
Old Dain was the friend of King Brand and defender of Dale, who was able to refuse Saurons influence. He fought at the foot of Erebor alongside the Bardingers against the Easterlings, indeed giving his life to defend Brands dead body. In the end his dwarves managed to be victorious against an army with superior numbers, so in my oppinion he seems to be the defender.
Based on this thoughts, I would switch two abbilities between the versions of Dain:
I´m aware, of the fact, that the Edain-team didn´t chose the abbility-sets for no reason and it all fit´s in the theme of precise specialisation of the different dwarf-factions, but I don´t see this as a very big problem:
Dain is a late-game hero, so when he appears on the battlefield the player normally would have the opportunity to buy upgrades, to cope with the realm-specific weaknesses. Besides that all the effects are either temporarely or only affecting nearby troops, so the over all theme of the subfaction is not touched at all.
I even find it more interesting having the opportunity to somehow change tactics using Dains abbilities. Just strengthening your advantage seems somehow boring.
My concept about the ring-functions of Dain and Thorin will be edited soon...
I´d like to present my ideas for the ring-functions of young Dain and Thorin. Concerning Hannar I will wait for Aule, as the whole creation of this character was his and his friend idea. This will be a longer post and most of it are not about Durin or the ring-function at all, but it´s aim is to complete the topic by focussing on Dain and Thorin. If it´s in the wrong place just move it to another thread or write me and I will do it myself.
Standart abbilities of the two different versions of Dain:
I know read not only the ring-concepts of Dain and Thorin, but also their normal abbilities and it came to my mind, that Dains character-developement as described in the book (and seen in the movie) is somehow contradicted:
Young Dain was the one, who came with his army by forced marches all the way from the Iron Hills and was totally fine to let the situation escalate and fight against Elves and Humans. He doesn´t seem to me as a defender, more an atacker.
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Gandalf: It is Dain, Lord of the Iron Hills. He's Thorin's cousin.
Bilbo: Are they alike?
Gandalf: I always found Thorin the more reasonable of the two.
Old Dain was the friend of King Brand and defender of Dale, who was able to refuse Saurons influence. He fought at the foot of Erebor alongside the Bardingers against the Easterlings, indeed giving his life to defend Brands dead body. In the end his dwarves managed to be victorious against an army with superior numbers, so in my oppinion he seems to be the defender.
Based on this thoughts, I would switch two abbilities between the versions of Dain:
- Iron Hill-Dain get´s Baruk Khazad! and Erebor Dain get´s Lord of the Iron Hills renaming it to King under the Mountain. This abbility is in a way the reverse of Thorins abbility with the same name which nicely points out the differences in character.
- Vendetta is transferred to the ring-function, while his normal version get´s Forced marches, which increases the speed of foot soldiers on the map for 30 second, but making them in exchange after that a bit slower for 10 seconds. Defend the Halls! is transferred to Erebor-Dain, who indeed died defending his halls and his friend.
I´m aware, of the fact, that the Edain-team didn´t chose the abbility-sets for no reason and it all fit´s in the theme of precise specialisation of the different dwarf-factions, but I don´t see this as a very big problem:
Dain is a late-game hero, so when he appears on the battlefield the player normally would have the opportunity to buy upgrades, to cope with the realm-specific weaknesses. Besides that all the effects are either temporarely or only affecting nearby troops, so the over all theme of the subfaction is not touched at all.
I even find it more interesting having the opportunity to somehow change tactics using Dains abbilities. Just strengthening your advantage seems somehow boring.
My concept about the ring-functions of Dain and Thorin will be edited soon...
! Du bist dran.